yup, we’ve all gotta be the customers!

Have you explored recommendations in the video context? seems like a needlessly polarizing topic. I suspect it’ll be important to have something like that before video will become a mainstream usecase on nostr.

I appreciate the contrarian take. I don’t have as much background on the full history of nostr — so thanks for contributing that.

I wrote what I did because some people look at nostr as tribalist around bitcoiners and I just wanted to say that the beauty to me is that it’s a different layer of technology that’s not closely coupled to a cryptocurrency belief — at least not today.

However, I don’t think the incentives of nostr will work long term without internet native money. At some point relays need to get compensated for the resources they contribute. Bitcoin is the only reasonable way to do this, imo.

I also don’t think advertising-based business models will work given the protocol structure, so again, we need bitcoin to help mediate the value exchange among people who create/consume on the protocol.

Gun a very different project. I know it well. Nostr is a cut down version of SSB. Martti came over from gun to nostr, too.

Is Nostr dependent on bitcoin?

nope. it's a totally independent idea to support free speech. though it does tickle some similar instincts in people

If you drop by Nostr even casually, it can often feel like you’re crashing a bitcoiner dinner party. The memes, the FOSS devs, the topics of conversation often seem to overlap with bitcoin culture. Is this just a case of “birds-of-a-feather” or is there more to it?

Nostr is an open protocol. It’s independent of the use or existence of any cryptocurrency. It uses cryptography, but nothing super fancy there. It’s actually kinda basic, tbh.

So why did so many bitcoiners show up? A simple explanation might be that fiatjaf, the creator of Nostr, was a bitcoiner and brought like-minded people along. But I think there’s more to it than just the initial seed.

The critical feature which Nostr gets right is that you can create an account just by doing math on your own. Of course, you can use a little program on your own computer to help do this math (i.e., creating public-private key pairs). This is cryptography at its best — a tool that empowers the individual.

You don’t have to go to a 3rd-party-issuer to create an account for you. You don’t have to subscribe to a particular cryptocurrency or political ideology. You could identify as a libertarian, anarchist, democrat, republican, labor party, or you may not accept any political labels at all.

On Nostr, you’re welcome to even dislike the concept of bitcoin/cryptocurrencies altogether. As long as you have a curiosity about, or interest in freedom of speech you may find Nostr to be a good place for you to share your thoughts. On Nostr, your ideas and your words are published without being subject to anyone’s permission. The separation of power between clients and data stores is what enforces your rights. It’s baked into the architecture. Not promised and granted to you by a demagogue. That’s the whole idea.

That's what I was thinking, too. When I tried in docker, it gave me an exec format error stating that it was looking for amd64 but system is arm64. When I tried the auto installer, it just quit and took me back to command prompt.

I don't want you to think I'm just over here complaining, lol. It works like gangbusters on my servers! I just think that my servers would be too op for my use case, is all. And I got like 9 RPIs, and a renegade board, over here collecting dust. 😂🤣

Any chance of a arm64 build? 😁

Most people who I know that think the CIA invented bitcoin, are not very familiar with the pre-history of Bitcoin including work by Back, Szabo, Finney, etc.

I'm not saying that certainly no intelligence agency created Bitcoin, but rather, I'm very skeptical of the certainty that many people have around that topic.

Because, when you are somewhat familiar with that pre-history and look at it from an engineering perspective, you can clearly see the pieces gradually falling into place. In the1980s there was work by Chaum about how to build a database run by mutually suspicious entities. In the 1990s there was work by Back for proof-of-work. As things moved into the 2000s, there was Szabo's Bit Gold, which is very similar to what Bitcoin ended up being, and Finney's Reusable Proof of Work "RPOW" tokens. Finney hadn't solved the centralization issue, and Szabo hadn't solved the issue of better computation causing supply inflation over time, but they were collectively within shooting range of the solution. Others as well. Meanwhile global bandwidth was getting better, encryption in general was getting better (and there we've got an actual intelligence agency contribution), etc.

And then Satoshi added to that work, including the difficulty adjustment in particular and many other details, with a full implementation.

Basically, if someone thinks that Bitcoin just kind of magically came out of nowhere, then it's pretty easy to see how they'd be inclined toward a conspiratorial assumption.

However, if one sees that, just like any other industry, there was a series of engineers building on each others' work until someone finally got it over the line, then it looks a lot more organic.

I tried it. It was really easy to set up. It creates like 2 or 3 services in systemd, and a couple of folders. I think the only thing I didn't like was that it seems to need shock wallet to setup. I didn't see an easy way to use a different wallet. And there were only 3 ways to set up channels. I didn't see an easy way to just open a channel with any node I'd want.

That being said, is fast and easy, otherwise. I also understand that it's in is early phase of development. My minor gripes could be addressed later.

What is a “Shared lightning node”

Lightning is in a very sorry state. Alby is the only thing that works, but when even Alby doesn't work there is no alternative. LightningTipBot was the only thing until it shut down. Is there any other option? We have dozens of clients with zap support but users who can't access it without getting a PhD in Lightning.

Huge milestone ⚡️🎉

1-line deployment of Lightning.Pub, a Nostr-powered Lightning Node

In this demo I set up a node, from scratch, in 2 minutes with a connection to a management dashboard as admin, and then connect another user with guest link... completely over Nostr with no tricky networking or sluggish Tor

There is no window.nostr in native iOS or Android. That's why NIP-46 got created. In that way, the client uses a secondary nostr key to get the decryption, encryption and signatures of the main key in a remote server.

Too bad.. NIP-07 doesn't work on Native apps :(