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some people only use paid relays so you cant reach them unless someone on paid boosts you etc

they rely on hodlers to prevent price collapse

iris for example also filters global until someone connected to you interacts with the new npub

yep it creates exclusivity, no new users use them because most people dont have bitcoin

generally, but there will be curation here that is safe, you can already take the follows of safe people here to get a safe feed

Replying to Avatar Bill Monroe

Can anyone give me a better understanding of paid relays? I have read a couple explainers and I understand them better but I still have questions.

I get that the main purpose of them is to reduce/eliminate spam, increasing the signal to noise ratio. But I'm having troubling seeing how exactly that plays out in the current state of the network. Can anyone give a specific example of how it has made their experience on Nostr better?

Do paid relays just improve your global feed quality or does it also make your follows feed better in some way?

Do paid relays increase the reach/viewcount/likes/comments/zaps on your notes in any substantial way?

Are you seeing notes from users that you didn't see when using only free relays?

Another benefit I have seen given of using paid relays is higher speed. Has any one actually experienced recieving notes or their notes being propagated at a noticable higher speed on paid relays? Or is this more of an expected benefit as the network grows?

Does anyone actually use the global feed and find it useful? If so, what do you get out of it? On Amatyst I find it completly useless with the default relays. Whenever I open it up it is the same spam messages over and over again. On NostrGram the experience is much better. Most of the irrelevant garbage is gone but it isn't that much different than what I see in the Following+ tab. I still find the Following and Following+ tabs to be more usefull at feeding me notes that I am interested in.

paid relays are stupid

they are the king ponzi among crypto, i would be concerned with how close eth is and how easy anything else goes to zero, they have to continually get new people into bitcoin or none of them can get any fiat to actually buy anything, so they all pimp bitcoin

it's eye opening how bitcoiners apply the same methods as any crypto to pump their ponzi

it should be only in the app storage, to test if you wipe it you should be logged out, make sure its backed up

i see the value with helping devs or future content creators but currently it just makes nostr look like a desperate bitcoiners gig

to be honest the whole zap thing is off putting

oh well that explains it

exactly why i think you are blocked because the engagement here is very good, i am blocked too now for engaging you guys, that 'hellthread' pissed off a load of people