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drastically ungovernable taxes disrespector, ANCAP LIBER*

also if you hack a bit with regex you can turn every http page in a repo. I update whatsapp and electrum from obtanioum and versioning is handled like a charm

hi, now that we have have a full on-chain management possibility, why not permit to deactivate completely the lightning node? People in some cases would like to use it just as an "on chain wallet"

most important apps are signed by fdroid, not by the app devs (for the most part at least; fdroid offers a method to build the app in a way that permit devs to sign themself, but pratically noone uses it cause require much work).

So if someone compromise fdroid, he can put arbitrary malware in the update of all your fdroid apps.

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"on nostr and farcaster people are often talking about nostr or farcaster, but on bluesky people are just talking about other things, therefore bluesky is a superior protocol"

If this is the criteria maybe mr protocols-not-platforms will have to admit now that Instagram is the superior protocol because people never talk about Instagram on Instagram? There is so much more people there just enjoying it.

Also means that people that build bluesky don't use bluesky to talk and vice-versa.

Is neutrino leaking the public address from the watch only wallet to the server??? Is it reccommend to use tor for privacy (not associate ip to addresses)?

in Italy everytime I try to talk about nostr to people they think is a joke. Conversations be like:

me: "do you ever heard about NOSTR??"

them: "not funny..."

me: "seriously, nostr..."

them: "NOSTRONZO ce sarai"

NOSTRONZO means literally "a piece of shit" in italian.

They think is something like the "stocazzo".

We have this thing, we say " do you know Belesjakasaa???" the other person say "who????" and we say "STOCAZZZOOOOO!!!!!" its the peak of italian comedy. Stocazzo means literally "this dick".

Hi guys, this is my first day on nostr๐Ÿค—

Hopefully I will add value to the nostr universe with my powerful skills:

- italianish super-mario-like-english full of errors rants on things.

- bad questions about thigs I don't understand so much.

Now is ninna-nanna time lets go to sleep๐Ÿ˜š๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ˜ด

goodnight nostr๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—

#introductions

So little bitcoiners-representation everywhere.

Whe are so early.

game theory? A self-sovrein individual is someone who reserve for himself more optionality. A slave is a slave, and will end damaging himself. So, after this socialist fiat world, we will see libertarian survive and reproduce, and the slaves perish. Simple.

What makes me happy is that applying game theory we are on a train that goes to emancipation.

Who understand that will be rewarded, mental slaves will suffer for their lack of human coscience.

When you endorse bitcoin to people it seems you are convincing them to save the world. What you are really doing is convincing them to save themself.

๐—ช๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ข๐—ป๐—น๐˜† ๐—ฎ ๐—™๐—ฒ๐˜„ ๐—ง๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ, ๐—›๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—•๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฆ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐—จ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—š๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐— ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜†?

๐˜ˆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฆ๐˜น๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฑ๐˜ต ๐˜ง๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜บ-๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐™›๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™–๐™ก ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง โ€œ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿญ ๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€โ€, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ต #Ai-๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ #Bitcoin ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฌ.

This question, which was the first to be asked of Satoshi when he shared the whitepaper, has sparked debates, a Bitcoin โ€œcivil war,โ€ and a variety of innovative ideas throughout Bitcoinโ€™s lifetime. In this chapter, nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev, nostr:npub1dtgg8yk3h23ldlm6jsy79tz723p4sun9mz62tqwxqe7c363szkzqm8up6m, and nostr:npub1au23c73cpaq2whtazjf6cdrmvam6nkd4lg928nwmgl78374kn29sq9t53j shed light on how Bitcoin is already scaling for global adoption so it can truly become the money of the future.

Below is Giacomo Zuccoโ€™s answer, as written in โ€œ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿญ ๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€โ€:

๐—š๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผ ๐—ญ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ฐ๐—ผโ€™๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜€๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฟ:

Bitcoin, as a system, allows for much, much more than just a few transactions per second. Bitcoin, as a digitally scarce asset, can be transacted numerous times and in various ways. So if we want to transact bitcoin in the most expensive possible way, which is also the safest in most use cases, we use the global layer one, the eternal and universal Bitcoin ledger. The ledger is one single, append-only, immutable register of all the participants' transactions that will be forever impossible to reduce and must be downloaded, verified, and stored by every node forever. This process is clearly very expensive and not scalable, so it will primarily serve as a settlement layer for more substantial transactions, which will be required with different kinds of security mechanisms.

Some of these different security mechanisms will still retain a very strong security model, which is not the same as the Bitcoin timechain or blockchain but is still reliable and reasonable in most use cases. For example, a Lightning channel will still give the owner of the keys complete control over the content of the channel. And on a Lightning channel, we can have thousands of transactions per second, without having to use the settlement layer. Therefore, we can achieve good security while facilitating thousands of transactions per second.

However, it's important to note that this provides a different level of security. For example, when using a Lightning channel, we would need to be online occasionally to check that the counterparty will not rob us, which is not the case for on-chain addresses. That said, the on-chain address can be censored or attacked by miners, especially if it's new, while a Lightning channel, even if it's old, can have new transactions happen a few seconds ago, having the same security as a transaction that happened a few months ago. Thus, various risk models are involved. Of course, the cheaper, faster, and more efficient you go, the more you may trade off security โ€” especially the long-term security โ€” for your funds. But this is not always true, as in the aforementioned paradox of mining attacks.

To recap, Bitcoin transactions are not only a few per second. Bitcoin transactions are potentially unlimited in number per second. A very specific subset of these Bitcoin transactions, the on-chain, layer-one settlement transactions, are limited to a few per second. Scaling the entire Bitcoin ecosystem within this limitation involves minimizing the use of these on-chain, layer-one settlement transactions and aggregating the demand for transactions outside the blockchain into fewer, consolidated blockchain settlements. So, we need to aggregate many transactions with a different security model into a few settlement transactions that will happen with this very effective โ€” but very expensive โ€” security model. Additionally, this approach offers other benefits, as the settlement layer has notable privacy and censorship resistance limitations, unlike many off-chain transaction models.

Giacomo Zucco is an Italian technology entrepreneur and a consultant/teacher for the Bitcoin and Lightning Network protocols. He spends his time supporting projects that he feels might be relevant to the future of Bitcoin, be it as an educator, consultant, entrepreneur, maximalist, or troll. Previously, he was involved in GreenAddress, AssoBIT, BlockchainLab, and Bitcoin Magazine. He's currently advancing Bitcoin via BHB Network, ๐˜‰๐˜›๐˜Š๐˜›๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, Relai, BCademy, and Notarify.

Stay tuned for an announcement about where you can soon purchase your own copy of โ€œ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿญ ๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€โ€!๐Ÿ‘€

Con il sistema fiat nell'era dell'informazione il settlement (l'eventuale scambio di oro) รจ lento e dispendioso, mentre il credito รจ veloce e immediato.

Il problema รจ che non esiste una reale alternativa all'affidarsi al ledger del credito bancario per i pagamenti. Da una parte c'รจ una componente tecnica (oro lento, credito veloce), dall'altra un'oppressione statale contro chi offre un'alternativa (lotta alle monete private).

Con bitcoin รจ importante tenere al massimo l'incensurabilitรก e fare in modo che il settlement finale di uno scambio resti quantomeno possibile per importi di una certa entitรก.

Senza scalabilitรก on chain si rischia di avere layer secondari che ad un certo punto depeggano dal settlement.

Va benissimo secondo me usare servizi custodial quando conviene per piccoli importi, ma bisogna domandarsi se questa รจ una legittima scelta, o se non esiste un'alternativa economicamente sensata alla custudia di terze parti.

Se arriviamo al punto in cui non esiste piรบ una alternativa sensata alla custodia di terze parti allora cadiamo nella stessa trappola fiat.

L'oro รจ fantastico, eppure in tutti gli stati si รจ passati al credito depegatto arbitrariamente inflazionabile.

Bitcoin รจ fantastico...

Un layer secondario sano รจ secondo me quello in cui piรบ della metรก dei fondi sono gestiti in maniera indipendente e dove chi gestisce importi di una certa entitรก sceglie l'autocustodia come manovra economica sensata.

Secondo te, i layer di pagamento di bitcoin sono/resteranno "sani"? A quali condizioni?

Replying to Avatar Zapstore

Great question!

We run an indexer that gets data and artifacts from various repositories. It can be slow sometimes, but it's improving - in quantity and speed.

All data is written to wss://relay.zap.store and https://cdn.zap.store (a blossom server). At the moment both are read-only for everyone except this pubkey.

The zap.store Android app fetches data from that relay which for now is hardcoded. Why? First reason is security: we do not have all the tools in place yet to let users confidently determine the trust profile of an app, so we're effectively curating. And second is UX: the NIPs for apps and releases are new and in flux, having control over the relay allows us to fine tune without causing many issues.

Once we progress with all that we will let users choose their own app relays. So you are right that it's not fully permissionless today, although you could definitely fork app and relay and run your own. But it will soon be.

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Cool project!

With obtanioum the indexer is fully decentralized, it lives in the phone of users, like rss feeds.

So, the real use case for this solution, as I see it, is to offer a nostr-based layer for indexing/distributing (npubs based chain of trust and so on....) but ALSO and more important, to offer a better way to store and trasmit the data itself (the apk in the android case).

Until it remains a layer-over-github it wouldn't solve any problem. Github could be censored and could limit the avain any moment, even when the fetches happens from relays.

A future integration with bittorrent 2.0 to permit to the distributors to be fully uncensorable and indipendent?

value that I will add to the nostr universe with my powerful skills:

- italianish super-mario-like english full of errors rants on things

- bad questions about thigs I don't understand so much

Ok I'm on nostr now, can we become friends ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ