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Been a year since I used nostr. Garnet still being worked on or was it abandoned?

There is a grocery store in Long Island, New York that accepts #Monero directly. No gift cards, no converting into another currency. Straight up cold hard Monero.

Doug and Sunitafrom Monerotopia/Monero Talk paid them a visit and did a little shopping. https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/8Wb6/

https://nostrcheck.me/media/3fef59378dce7726d3ef35d4699f57becf76d3be0a13187677126a66c9ade3b8/e70fbfb8e6661be4be99b6d5864a24719ed254772761939425498cc18103bc04.mp4

Whats the deal with Proton Privacy? They're releasing a Bitcoin wallet (Proton Wallet) which integrates with ProtonMail allowing users to send BTC to email addresses.

Thats good, right?

Well, theres a lot mixed signals and conflicting stances made by Proton. Lets dissect.

Proton is a privacy centric company. Their first product Proton Mail was e2e encrypted email. Every product offered by Proton since has made privacy a priority.

With the exception of Proton Wallet.

Not only is Bitcoin anti-privacy, the Proton Wallet itself offers no privacy tools at launch such as coinjoin or silent payments.

Instead of a complementing its privacy products, Proton Wallet risks linking users' emails to their real identities.

While the most requested private payment option, has gone ignored since 2018.

Note: this isnt asking Proton to make a Monero wallet or allow Monero payments to email addresses. It is simply asking Proton to accept Monero payments for their products. To protect user privacy.

Yesterday, the Proton team replied to a reddit post asking about a possible Monero integration.

"because of the risk of associating Proton with criminality. Unfortunately, at present, Monero support in Proton Wallet would not assuage those concerns." https://libreddit.bus-hit.me/r/ProtonWallet/comments/1ebbpub/monero_integration/

Besides there being no legal basis for assuming that creating a Monero wallet or simply accepting Monero payments is illegal, it also directly contradicts their ethos of providing privacy services in spite of government approval.

The unwillingness to offer Monero payment option due to perceived legal risks also contradicts the fact that Proton accepted Bitcoin donations at the peak of Bitcoin's Darknet days and mainstream narrative that it was a tool for criminals, much like Monero is portrayed today.

To add insult to injury, Proton Wallet makes this meaningless comment on "shitcoins" with no further context, which is the crypto equivalent of "Go woke go broke" as it panders to a minority of crypto users while alienating the rest of its userbase.

The only logical conclusion I can come to is that Proton has been infected with the Bitcoin maxi woke mind virus. Putting ideology ahead of ethos and logic.

Such careless disregard for their users' privacy may be the first nail in the Proton coffin.

What do you think?

The lowest tip amount needs to be much lower. 0.05 xmr minimum??

Replying to Avatar ODELL

RHR AT 1800 UTC TOMORROW.

https://rhr.tv

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Privacy is necessary for an open society in the electronic age. Privacy is not secrecy. A private matter is something one doesn't want the whole world to know, but a secret matter is something one doesn't want anybody to know. Privacy is the power to selectively reveal oneself to the world.

If two parties have some sort of dealings, then each has a memory of their interaction. Each party can speak about their own memory of this; how could anyone prevent it? One could pass laws against it, but the freedom of speech, even more than privacy, is fundamental to an open society; we seek not to restrict any speech at all. If many parties speak together in the same forum, each can speak to all the others and aggregate together knowledge about individuals and other parties. The power of electronic communications has enabled such group speech, and it will not go away merely because we might want it to.

Since we desire privacy, we must ensure that each party to a transaction have knowledge only of that which is directly necessary for that transaction. Since any information can be spoken of, we must ensure that we reveal as little as possible. In most cases personal identity is not salient. When I purchase a magazine at a store and hand cash to the clerk, there is no need to know who I am. When I ask my electronic mail provider to send and receive messages, my provider need not know to whom I am speaking or what I am saying or what others are saying to me; my provider only need know how to get the message there and how much I owe them in fees. When my identity is revealed by the underlying mechanism of the transaction, I have no privacy. I cannot here selectively reveal myself; I must always reveal myself.

Therefore, privacy in an open society requires anonymous transaction systems. Until now, cash has been the primary such system. An anonymous transaction system is not a secret transaction system. An anonymous system empowers individuals to reveal their identity when desired and only when desired; this is the essence of privacy.

Privacy in an open society also requires cryptography. If I say something, I want it heard only by those for whom I intend it. If the content of my speech is available to the world, I have no privacy. To encrypt is to indicate the desire for privacy, and to encrypt with weak cryptography is to indicate not too much desire for privacy. Furthermore, to reveal one's identity with assurance when the default is anonymity requires the cryptographic signature.

We cannot expect governments, corporations, or other large, faceless organizations to grant us privacy out of their beneficence. It is to their advantage to speak of us, and we should expect that they will speak. To try to prevent their speech is to fight against the realities of information. Information does not just want to be free, it longs to be free. Information expands to fill the available storage space. Information is Rumor's younger, stronger cousin; Information is fleeter of foot, has more eyes, knows more, and understands less than Rumor.

We must defend our own privacy if we expect to have any. We must come together and create systems which allow anonymous transactions to take place. People have been defending their own privacy for centuries with whispers, darkness, envelopes, closed doors, secret handshakes, and couriers. The technologies of the past did not allow for strong privacy, but electronic technologies do.

We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and since we can't get privacy unless we all do, we're going to write it. We publish our code so that our fellow Cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Our code is free for all to use, worldwide. We don't much care if you don't approve of the software we write. We know that software can't be destroyed and that a widely dispersed system can't be shut down.

Cypherpunks deplore regulations on cryptography, for encryption is fundamentally a private act. The act of encryption, in fact, removes information from the public realm. Even laws against cryptography reach only so far as a nation's border and the arm of its violence. Cryptography will ineluctably spread over the whole globe, and with it the anonymous transactions systems that it makes possible.

For privacy to be widespread it must be part of a social contract. People must come and together deploy these systems for the common good. Privacy only extends so far as the cooperation of one's fellows in society. We the Cypherpunks seek your questions and your concerns and hope we may engage you so that we do not deceive ourselves. We will not, however, be moved out of our course because some may disagree with our goals.

The Cypherpunks are actively engaged in making the networks safer for privacy. Let us proceed together apace.

Onward.

Eric Hughes

9 March 1993

Just fucking use Monero already. Bitcoin blew its 15 year lead on creating an alternative system. No privacy = no freedom. We can't afford to fail again.

Instead of just copy pasting the cypherpunk manifesto, actually read what it says. Bitcoin is the antithesis of the manifesto.

"Use Monero for spending, use Bitcoin for savings"

NO.

STOP FUCKING AROUND.

Bitcoin's best privacy tool was taken down. Privacy is the foundation of freedom. Bitcoin is NOT SAFE.

Use Monero for spending. Use #Monero for saving.

Believe it or not, nostr is already an echo chamber. It can get worse, sure.

Is only a waste of time if I gain nothing from it.

I'm flipping sats for 3x to 10x their nominal face value. Sooo, nothing is being wasted ;)

The rush to be first with low inscription numbers definetely dying down. Higher quality projects or original ideas will take their time and not worry about being early.

Its also just a sunday. Yesterday i inscribed around 50 .sats names. Today another 15