it's just a vulgar 4chanism. nobody actually wants to become a robot and shoot a child
when blocks remain small, lightning can't scale without custodians. even if every single transaction on L1 was dedicated to maintaining lightning channels, it would still top out at a certain number of sovereign users, and to get more converts to the bitcoin religion you would need them to use custodians. why are you okay with that? do you really think it's cool that someone else can just steal your money or rug you? are you really cool with only a small percentage of the wealthiest bitcoiners being able to own their own money, while everyone else has no protection from getting robbed?
I think payment channel based solutions belong in the trash bin
re your answer to #3: you literally just pretended that user friendliness is equivalent to sovereignty. it's not. it doesn't matter if lightning gets "easier." if you don't own a UTXO and use it to open your own channel, it's someone else's money. and bitcoin is designed right now so that there is not enough room for lots of people to own and interact with their own UTXO. in a mass adoption scenario with small blocks and lightning, the number of people who can be sovereign is way smaller than the number of people who want to be. 99% of the population gets shoved into a centralized custodian. that's just not going to protect decentralization.
>automated proof of reserves and automated bank runs
I can't tell if this is dumber than delegated proof of stake
you can never permissionlessly exit from a channel that you did not personally open
lmao he even used the word "unstoppable." these people have fucking brain damage
I don't think that farcaster is representative of most people who interact with ETH just like I don't think that nostr is representative of most people who interact with BTC (or monero)
you should not have to become a rocket surgeon to be sovereign. even if were easy the system of lightning still requires you to interact with a UTXO to be sovereign and there's not enough room for everyone. I don't like payment channel solutions anyway. if lightning is the best L2 that bitcoin developers can come up with you are in for some trouble down the road. sovereignty is really what gives bitcoin its shine.
why do you feel that lightning has failed?
echo "Satoshis per Dollar:" && curl -s https://bitpay.com/api/rates | jq '.[] | select(.code=="USD") | (100000000 / .rate) | floor'



I wanna see maxis suffer. rug every ecash mint. make them learn the hard way
I listened to this whole thing while doing my leaves today. it was pretty great. bitcoin maxis have become cowards who want to comply instead of changing the world, and all the hard work is instead being done by monero and ethereum people.
let's start here. any cryptocurrency payment network that can't scale without help from custodians belongs in the trash bin. it's the custodians who are the problem. their presence erases all of the benefits that bitcoin is supposed to provide. ruggable sats is a retarded idea. if it takes you longer than 3 minutes to figure this out on your own you have brain damage.
imagine it's the year 2017. I invent an altcoin that doesn't scale without custodians. by its design, if too many people try to use it without a custodian the fees shoot up and most people can't afford to interact with it. the custodians issue IOUs against these coins and it is totally impossible to verify that the number of IOUs doesn't exceed the number of circulating coins. you would call it a shitcoin, and you would be correct. but now it's 2024, they did the same exact thing with bitcoin, and all you see is the little yellow B with the two lines through it and you think everything is fine. you're being scammed.
