{"type":"psa","title":"Bounties for nostr developers","comment":"Please check out https://bountsr.org/relay-with-wot-based-limits/ and the other bounties on that site! If you are not a dev, you can pledge sats to get it done, too.","categories":[{"events":["nostrica"]}]}
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this morning I wanted to tag #[0] on a note and found it annoying to get his npub
this bugged me a bunch of times on many clients so I made this 👇
https://github.com/pablof7z/nostr-npub
cc #[1]
nostrgram does the job quite well but I get fewer Jeffs than you get and the one Jeff Booth I follow is not marked as such. #[2]
So you could have honored all of them, the zaps would have been displayed as 1x the amount, so you paying back 1.765x would have worked and you would have blamed the 0.765x on the fees. Way to draw attention to an issue.
Guess the explanation should go as a direct reply to your OP so that once clients show threads more like Twitter does, people will see that the offer ended. I guess you can't distinguish the zapps to this post from other zapps.
I guess people will try to zap this for years to come. Or you delete it somehow. Let's see how that goes ;)
So far it's more a wish list and they wish for way more than I think the bounty is asking for, while not focusing on compatibility with existing tools.
note1vcwvygvk0l8wtakjkqh7gwvy6xmxpeae6kqav2ft2yvzy6u7pcmsr4qs9g #[2]
#[1] I'm not sure what this would have to do with my bounty.
#[2] try the link above ;)
It seams your parser picks up the "note" in URLS and replaces them, too.
TIL: https://github.com/NostrGit/NostrGit is a thing. Ok guys ... when will the bounty be due? :D
Flooding you with DMs ...
Please award a badge "nostream user". I would accept it although I would prefer to add it to my profile.
... join us at your bi-annual doubling party!
My 2,172,215sats [bounty](https://bountsr.org/relay-with-wot-based-limits/) did trigger some interest but I feel like it is needed rather yesterday than who knows when.
My hypothesis is:
* Charging all users money for the right to **write** to a relay is not helpful at all, as
* Many users that would share valuable notes just never would pay for the right to speak via this one particular relay.
* The relay would still have to deal with DOS issues from all the free read access.
* Reading from this relay would get you only the content by paying users and not the content of all your follows, so it will always need complementary relays.
* Charging all users for the right to **read** from a relay is not a solution neither. While this would certainly allow to keep read DOS attacks at bay, it would never take off as 90% of users simply never would pay for social media - especially not to try out this nostr thing coming from Twitter.
* Relay operators need monetary compensation for the service or we will never bootstrap an infrastructure like Twitter. I don't know Twitter's infrastructure but maybe jack@cash.app has some ballpark number. My guess is one $50/month server for 10k concurrent connections. To handle peak demand that would probably translate to $50/month for 100k monthly active users or $0.0005 or 23sat per month per user.
* There are more than one in a thousand nostr users that would be willing to pay for the other 999 - after all it's only $0.5/month.
* Early such relays could easily charge what Twitter charges for blue check-marks - $8/month. In fact that would be what I would be aiming for with relay.nostr.info. After all, if Twitter can charge that and you want to say FU to Twitter, support our infrastructure! This way, one paying user in 10k would leave a profit for the operator. My bounty is for an open source solution, so if this works out for relay.nostr.info, others will join and offer the same service but cheaper. Free market for the win!
* As only a tiny fraction of users will be required to finance relays, we still need a way to deal with others. Therefore my relay would measure resource use of all its users and assign allowances to each, depending on their proximity to the paying users. If a paying user is following you, your notes are why they pay for the relay, so your notes are valuable! I want them even if you don't submit them to my relay! I want to provide my paying users with a one-stop relay that has all the events they care about! No need to pay for writing to it. As resource use is being measured though, abuse will result in the respective user's suspension to avoid impact on better behaving users. This will hopefully not only stop deliberate DOS attacks but also help expose clients that out of poor programming drain the relay's resources.
* Badges would further increase willingness to pay for relays. I would award an "I support the network" badge with a 31 day expiration. There you have your "blue check-mark". The user would not have to accept the badge to use the relay. Users could gift "blue" to others of course, too.
All in all I see a rosy future for nostr relays and nostr as a whole. Please support this path! Please support it as free and open source. Profit is not bad. Rent seeking is bad.
Fellow devs, please consider if this can be done quickly.
Fellow nostriches, please consider joining the pledge!
For some reason when I posted this earlier using nostream, it ended up on no relay at all. #[0] I don't know what happened there but nostream still claims "relays: []" in the info even though I'm pretty sure it is on damus, ostr and a few other relays now.
#[1]
#[0] please, on the profile page, let me see a list of "liked" posts like Twitter has it. I "liked" a note recently and now can't find it.
My 2,172,215sats [bounty](https://bountsr.org/relay-with-wot-based-limits/) did trigger some interest but I feel like it is needed rather yesterday than who knows when.
My hypothesis is:
* Charging all users money for the right to **write** to a relay is not helpful at all, as
* Many users that would share valuable notes just never would pay for the right to speak via this one particular relay.
* The relay would still have to deal with DOS issues from all the free read access.
* Reading from this relay would get you only the content by paying users and not the content of all your follows, so it will always need complementary relays.
* Charging all users for the right to **read** from a relay is not a solution neither. While this would certainly allow to keep read DOS attacks at bay, it would never take off as 90% of users simply never would pay for social media - especially not to try out this nostr thing coming from Twitter.
* Relay operators need monetary compensation for the service or we will never bootstrap an infrastructure like Twitter. I don't know Twitter's infrastructure but maybe jack@cash.app has some ballpark number. My guess is one $50/month server for 10k concurrent connections. To handle peak demand that would probably translate to $50/month for 100k monthly active users or $0.0005 or 23sat per month per user.
* There are more than one in a thousand nostr users that would be willing to pay for the other 999 - after all it's only $0.5/month.
* Early such relays could easily charge what Twitter charges for blue check-marks - $8/month. In fact that would be what I would be aiming for with relay.nostr.info. After all, if Twitter can charge that and you want to say FU to Twitter, support our infrastructure! This way, one paying user in 10k would leave a profit for the operator. My bounty is for an open source solution, so if this works out for relay.nostr.info, others will join and offer the same service but cheaper. Free market for the win!
* As only a tiny fraction of users will be required to finance relays, we still need a way to deal with others. Therefore my relay would measure resource use of all its users and assign allowances to each, depending on their proximity to the paying users. If a paying user is following you, your notes are why they pay for the relay, so your notes are valuable! I want them even if you don't submit them to my relay! I want to provide my paying users with a one-stop relay that has all the events they care about! No need to pay for writing to it. As resource use is being measured though, abuse will result in the respective user's suspension to avoid impact on better behaving users. This will hopefully not only stop deliberate DOS attacks but also help expose clients that out of poor programming drain the relay's resources.
* Badges would further increase willingness to pay for relays. I would award an "I support the network" badge with a 31 day expiration. There you have your "blue check-mark". The user would not have to accept the badge to use the relay. Users could gift "blue" to others of course, too.
All in all I see a rosy future for nostr relays and nostr as a whole. Please support this path! Please support it as free and open source. Profit is not bad. Rent seeking is bad.
Fellow devs, please consider if this can be done quickly.
Fellow nostriches, please consider joining the pledge!
Anonymous trolls? Deep fakes?
Death penalty for all inconveniences that hit JBP!
Pathetic. https://t.co/nFvx4UTGRG
"potential issues" ... try using GitHub from Iran ...
Protocol. Not Platform. ;)
As always, nos2x for ff. I think you don't test that by default.