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Grafton @ Vexl
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Head of growth @ Vexl, dog lover/friend. P2P without any KYC (no exceptions) advocate. Live music maxi. B4L, WSMFP

Vexl.it it’s a non profit tool for pure p2p fully open source.

This is the way! Have you heard of Vexl?

super stoked rn

did the big walk to a CTT that was open this afternoon for me to pay my customs fee to release my package from being destroyed tomorrow, nearest by foot was Ponta Delgada

finally got there, after a big walk

oh yes, i have a series of photographs to show from my trek:

in chronological order

a bunch of sheeps with lambs that i snapped on my way back from not having the code the lady at the CTT in sao vicente needed for me to pay the extortion fee:

the dark tunnel, one of the older ones, not covered in nasty concrete, and leaking everywhere around the entry and exit:

this is about 1/3 of the way between sao vicente and ponta delgada

ok, so next, the awesome reason why there was no cars to bug me as i trudged along the road:

first a fallen bridge:

then, a little further ahead, half the road fell down:

eventually i got to a spot where i had the option of following the car path or veering off to the right for some walking on foot:

there there was some nasty dogs that could have jumped down to fight me but instead just stood there dumb as toast 1m above me in their yard yapping

after that, the approach to the end of the foot/horse road:

to the left was this awesome, sadly fallen down old vinery:

and then directly across the road where the car roads start again, this cute little antiquariat:

it was quite the diversion but idk what to say about a post office that is only open in the morning... the bulgarian expression еби си майката springs to mind

but i got the job done, and now i will not miss another failed-to-declare shipment ever, at least until the end of the world or proper WW3 that cuts off all sea and air transport to the island, which i look forward to, to watch all the fatass lazy bastards living off corruption and tourism discovering they have to actually lift their legs up once in a while.

#deardiary

Enjoy this post! I am so looking forward to coming back to Madeira.

Arise, you have nothing to lose but your barbed wire fences! - Timothy May

Well the thing is that it scales, the larger your network grows the more connections you have and the easier it becomes to trade.

This eliminates the need for escrow, as you are trading with people that you share a lot of contacts with. Sure you might trade with someone you know, but based on the web of trust you can decide if you want to trade or not.

Your real world reputation is important, if I buy on a p2p service with escrow that is a financial institution and I have to trust a 3rd party, my name appears in a total random persons bank account that could potentially be a problem for me in the future.

If I need to sell bitcoin often this creates even more problems with my fiat bank as they you ned permission to use their service.

It does not work like robosats or bisq as they have an order book Vexl does not. Vexl you only see offers from people in your web of trust.

Vexl is fully open source and all the code is available and you can verify that here https://github.com/vexl-it/vexl we just received a grant from open sats as well.

Vexl is not a for profit business and has no plans or ability to monetise, Vexl aims to create a tool that gives anyone the ability to transact, people have adapted it to be so much more that that, farmers are selling eggs, and honey, people are finding jobs via Vexl.

I want you to be skeptical, I want you to dig and I want you to bring up things that you for see being a problem as the only way we can build things that get better and better is with feedback. I implore you to dig further.

Vexl scales, we know that as you can see it in the Czech Republic, its pure p2p, the only people who know anything about your trades are you and the counterparty. You can decide your own threat model, you can decide if you feel comfortable sending via bank transfers, but I don't need to do that when I can easily pay cash for bitcoin on my way home from work and never leave a trace.

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Not too familair with Vexl, but it seems like it doesn't solve this...

Couple points:

1) Vexl acts as an exchange, just like Bisq or Robosats, except it's more recent (not long-standing) AND it has a company behind it - Big red flag. That's not how DEX open-source protocols work, they gain something, somehow, or intend to at some point. They're VC-funded.

2) IF you can buy directly via Vexl, as in, trade fiat in Vexl, you're linking your ID (you moved fiat in the legacy insitution from A to Vexl, at a certain time, on a certain day) with a BTC transaction - At which point Vexl doesn't need to ask your consent for KYC, it already has it. IF this is the case with Vexl integrating fiat, that's another HUGE red flag.

3) Checking their github, there are no reproducible builds. You cannot be certain that what you download on mobile is, at ANY degree, equivalent to what source code is displayed. Another big red flag.

4) They only distribute apps via official stores, no open source stores, nor via github itself.

Having reviewed points 1, 3, and 4 in particular, these red flags only show up when companies have something to hide. When they're open source as they claim, they are ENCOURAGED to not centralise power over development (Vexl Foundation), to make guide users to reproducible builds AND to have the .apk openly available.

I kinda wanted to shill for nostr:nprofile1qyd8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswfhhs7tdv9hxztnwv46z7qg4waehxw309ahx7um5wghx77r5wghxgetk9uq3yamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd36ju6m99uq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwxpuxx6rpwshxxmmd9uq3samnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwvd6hyun9de6zuenedyhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qpq5369wu3wzzar5fclhecyqfv683x69n6nhlg7rxqnsg2dydgxflpq3876er here but sadly can't, their frontend code is solely verifiable and backend isn't open-source, unfortunate.

Mobile DEXs need to do better.

You can’t buy directly in vexl, vexl is not a wallet does not touch your bitcoin or your fiat. Vexl is more of a tinder for bitcoin p2p no kyc matching. What you and the counterparty do it entirely on your terms. Vexl has no knowledge of it.

I’m not sure you dug deep into what Vexl actually is. Check this out: https://blog.vexl.it/how-to-do-peer-to-peer-trading-on-vexl-6745f3954ae9

It’s a web of trust model that is based purely on common contacts but does so in a completely anonymous way.

https://blog.vexl.it/understanding-vexl-security-privacy-and-building-a-web-of-trust-867710d4a6fe

that shit still whipping the llama's ass!

open source is amazing because if someone comes a long and makes something better and improves upon it, mission fuckin accomplished! open source empowers people and leaves something behind for everyone to benefit from!