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Autopoietic. Scratching things from chaos. Homesteading the noösphere. Opportunity farmer: Reading things that are not yet on the page. Haskell. Dollars only, thanks.

That's for more than one person to decide. That's why it's called "market value".

I'm not a dreamer and I find speculating on other people's dreams too risky so for me the value is zero.

No, paying a high price is never a good thing, not in memorabilia either. If you can pick up a Picasso on a flea market for $100 it's still a Picasso and a steal and good for you. Too bad for the seller if they're unaware of the market value of their merchandise.

Just remember to keep all the un-american bitcoins out of the network.

Housing, transport, medical, clothing, ...

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If your business allows for zero saving the only way Bitcoin can help you is accepting btc payments to attract / retain / reward (yes there are btc rewards / cash back solutions also) potential customers.

If making online sales your addressable market of Bitcoiners is huge, some estimations 100 million. And we’re passionate (to a point of being labelled as a cult by some) towards fellow Bitcoiners esp w/ businesses, the benefits of offering btc payment option to a potential customer base like that is obvious.

If your business only makes brick & mortar sales, you’d need to be in one of the globes Bitcoin circular economies for there to be any impact from btc sales. At this early stage of bitcoin’s evolution it would likely be a rounding error in terms of total sales.

If your business allows for zero savings, then that is all academic really, first point of order is to join the ranks of the millions & millions of businesses world wide that run an operation that has savings & thinks about how best to protect & grow that balance as the years roll on.

That’s when Bitcoin can really help the bottom line. You could even be someone that has a time preference that is so high that 2-3 years seems like a long time. Even on that timeframe the volatility of your savings in Bitcoin will become very favourable to the business bottom line.

Keep adding to the savings in Bitcoin, keep your borrowings an expenses & cash flow in fiat as required.

Bitcoins diminishing volatility over its lifetime has happened within a 120 million percent USD denominated price increase.

People & businesses with any form of savings only have to lower their time preference a little bit, e.g think in terms of 4 years halving cycles, to benefit massively from that volatility.

For any person or business with the opportunity to think about their savings, fiat is pathetic in comparison. It is really good at loosing considerable amounts (7%, 12%, 15%…) of purchasing power every 12 months, with low volatility / great stability. The popular CPI is the CPLie, it is provably not a reliable indication of how much purchasing power your fiat savings are actually loosing. And that effective loss in savings compounds negatively!

All Bitcoiners also have fiat on hand so they'll shop in my shop regardless.

As for Bitcoin future growth, "past performance does not guarantee future results" as they say.

What's a "treasury". A business' assets is stuff that it owns to make products and render services.

People are going to spend, but spend less.

Just running a business is a great way to verify one's ideas btw. Strangely everyone here has great theories and predictions about Bitcoin but none of these people actually run a business based on Bitcoin. Except for nostr:nprofile1qqs99d9qw67th0wr5xh05de4s9k0wjvnkxudkgptq8yg83vtulad30gpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejqz9thwden5te0dp5hxapwdehhxarj9ekxzmnyqyv8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehw6r9wfjjucm0d5eechmk who at least tried and faced with deflation started calling his customers "wet wipes" because they were willing to pay less and less.

Like most people here you're arguing from the point of the consumer. But lower prices across the bank will mean lower prices that workers can demand for their labor too. I.e falling wages.