It’s becoming clear your heart isn’t open to change. You responded pretty quickly for having really dug into actual scripture I provided, that doesn’t require any twisting to understand and gave you a recommendation from someone respected with sound teaching.
I don’t have to convince you, that is the duty of the spirit on a humbled heart. Since you’re clinging to your examples, I’ll reiterate my understanding for that of a heart of a babe. Again, I’m open to being wrong.
I’m not “missing” anything as you’ve stated. You’ve supplied great examples of the IMPORTANCE of women among the church. I agree that women’s importance is equal to that of men in ensuring God’s will. But LEADING the church is very different and I believe scripture makes that clear, not because women are lesser, as you’ve been poisoned to believe, but because they have another calling that men cannot fulfill for the church. Your examples don’t have much merit in the sense of LEADERSHIP in the church.
You stated:
Priscilla tought Apollos: great! This is very different from LEADING the church.
On Deborah: To say that Deborah was a prophetess and a leader in Israel, does not seem to say anything directly about whether or not women should be preachers in the church.
Suppose I had a cat named Lucy. Suppose I told you that because Lucy is a cat and because cats are animals and because dogs are animals, therefore Lucy is a dog. I’m not sure you would find that convincing because, while all cats are animals, not all animals are cats. My argument is built upon a significant category error.
Likewise, it is not true to say that because Deborah was a prophet and prophets are leaders, therefore women can be any type of leader including the preaching pastor of a church. The difference between a prophet and the preaching pastor of a church may well be as profound as the difference between a cat and a dog. Therefore the argument simply isn’t relevant or compelling.
Women’s words in scripture: again, great! But vastly different in LEADING the church. I never said women shouldn’t speak or be quoted for wisdom.
“Paul likely sent his letter to the Romans, which is scripture, to be delivered and preached by Phoebe, a deaconess.”: key words here, you stated “likely”, so we don’t in fact know… and if it was simply “READ” by Phoebe i would again urge you that reading Paul’s letters is a far cry of leadership.
You mentioned deaconess. Yes those exist and should, but submit to elders, who submit to Christ.
Again, go seek the spirit in the scripture I sent. Put the ego aside, your brother/comrade is not saying you are lesser.
Yes comrade, I never said Women don’t have a roll in the church or in working within the spirit to bring forth God’s will.
I said women were not to be used to LEAD the church.
New Testament readings:
1 Corinthians 14:34-45
1 Timothy 2:11-12
Chuck Missler does some pretty great expository sermons through these verses.
In short, if lead by a truly Godly man, I believe the tensions created by modern day feminism has no ground to stand.
The memo is 66 books long, led by the spirit and penned by 40 authors. The memo you are looking for is the best selling and most stolen literary work humanity has had access to, consisting of proven historically accurate accounts and prophecy. The memo is one in which millions before have died for men and women alike. All you have to have in reading it is a humbled heart.
You must find who you are and how you fit until to puzzle of the world and God’s purpose for your life. I will pray for you comrade.
I’m thankful I have scripture to consult and rely on, instead of the words from the proud, arrogant, and fragile human spirit. I’m welcome to changing my mind on the issue, but I doubt you would be.
Always has been
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Haha, comrade. Chill
Easy nostr:npub16eumpaxffppswucpeysysrya9uk39j06d5gr2tsnf6cupq3f4jdqyft6jc! Our culture gets caught up in the whole, God told women to submit thing… For God also asks that of the men and then some.
Ephesians 5
21Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Jesus loves you and I do too comrade.
Hard truth: if you want to follow God’s word, Women leading a church and teaching men is discouraged.
Instead of pro choice, it should be labeled pro murder comrade.
And no, they don’t it would force those people to realize “their side” have been the racists all along.
Anyone check on the next generation of bitcoiners YOLOing into $Trump lately?
Ensure the gulag is not enforced on your enemies.
As I prepare for the birth of my son I find solace in #bitcoin.
I stack for him, the next one, and their children. A precoiner couldn’t understand the peace I find in bitcoin. Without it, I’d be feverishly hoping for gains in my 401k that squeak above inflation to die in some semblance of peace, I would feel incapable of growing a large family to better humanity, I would be hopeless.
I sleep peacefully knowing I will hand utxos down to the next generation.
With this, I ask my comrades to not lose sight. To seek a better world, to create value in your communities and to stay humble and stack sats. A prayer for this baby to hurry along would be appreciated as well. Keep pushing comrades!
Zap a dev today
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Stocked up! Where my comrades at???
I need more fiat to stack sats.
#Bitcoin has me grinding.
GM Christ is king
My wife has discovered this
I agree wholeheartedly. Morality within a culture cannot be governed(enforced). We’re talking over each other and agree on core principles.
It’s up to you and I to change culture through our families and communities by example.
Morality cannot be governed comrade. I would encourage you to read Lewis’ opening to Mere Christianity.
Enforcing your moral code, however right you may be sets precedence for someone else to enforce their code upon you.
GM comrades.
Food inflation is real, dayum.
“No, the old proverb does not lie: Look for the brave in prison, and the stupid among the political leaders!”
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
The brave, so bold to see the virtue of freedom, to taste the splendor of liberty, to feel the respite of hope. In the moments of uncertainty, calamity, and tyranny the brave stand and follow the senses of humanity’s innate desires. Be brave everyday comrades, together we are the change.
#lessonsfromthegulag #nostr #freedom
Vibes with my favorite comrade.
Same here. I actually think both of his flow theses are correct, and he’s still not bullish enough 😂
Wild times comrade. I knew it existed, but not to this extent/magnitude. Truly eye opening. Just wait until they realize Bitcoin is superior