Any highlights or key features you would mention? As an Amethyst user- should I be excited? I haven't built NoteDeck on my Android yet but I want to try it soon.

I have few minor complaints with Amethyst. Overall it exceeds expectations. More options is always better. Is Damus Android built with Quartz, or Rust-Nostr? Neither?

I assume relay management will generally follow the NoteDeck trajectory and be addressed in time. Just curious about other features, or design concepts you might have in mind.

Looking forward to it in any case 🌊☀️

I had no idea! Interesting! Will keep this on my radar.

"Yes, I do heartily repent. I repent I had not done more mischief; and that we did not cut the throats of them that took us, and I am extremely sorry that you aren't hanged as well as we."

— Anonymous pirate, asked on the gallows if he repented.

BBBAFWD??? 🫨

HELL YEAH!!!!! 🤯🤯🤯

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#AskNostr I tried to stop recommending Highligter on my profile a few times, and the website never triggered any change in #Amethyst

I can never remember the website, but I'd like to try yet again to stop recommending Highlighter. I was initially excited for this feature but until I can recommend apps I use, it always in the way. My npub does not consent 🤣

Anyone know?

That is certainly my goal. I can say there is a path to this type of client. It would operate with relay.tools API. There are so many possible ways to distribute clients, but I aim to try and stay true to the classic experience. It will be a sovereign movement of sorts. Users who desire this framework need to simply find (or be able) to install relay.tools on a VPS. This is fairly simple for anyone who is driven to do so. It has a UI but acts most like a relay control board for operators.

We still need the client. But it will come. I am certain of it.

For now, no, there is for instance satellite.earth and coracle.social which implements nip-29 groups, as well as other apps that use the implementation.. but recently Flotilla was released for Android which opens up mobile groups. We have a discord replacement which is half of what I'm looking for. Reddit is the other half.

To put this in perspective- nip-29 is "groups on relays" which has lots of good value.

Relay.tools is "relay creation and management" which unlocks the possibility for a client that can then manage catalogues of different relays, to deliver that same reddit experience. But "subreddits" will literally be dedicated relays. No one will formally control this type of client, it will hook into a bunch of sovereign API calls directly to where the relays are.

Users who are running sovereign instances of relay.tools will also be able to essentially sub-let their domain for further ecosystem expansion. You can already do this, but it feels lackluster without a proper client. I can create a relay for you instantly, and if I were to configure lightning on my server, I could also charge a small fee for this. For now I only operate my own relays for discussions and testing, drafts, inbox/outbox etc. I don't know what experience you are coming from, so I apologize if this is a lot of extra information.

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Hah, yeah, I posted a bit about Ross on various subs and got downvoted into oblivion. 🤣 That place has become a very touchy cesspool since the API changes especially.

It makes total sense! I reached a lot of the same conclusions myself, but only surface-level understandings. I couldn't realistically define all of the things you did on a stage one year ago in Japan. But hearing you talk about it was very relieving.

The article!!!! I was absolutely pouring over it! I just saw it a few days ago and when I read the title I honestly sighed and said something like "oh great, what is it now.." but man was I relieved when I realized you're just spitting straight facts!

Very important conceptual blueprinting. I read your commentary on the PR's but haven't looked at the NIPs yet. I'm just so excited that there seems to be a generally agreeable direction for some of us to agree on. I've been losing my mind trying to explain what casual iphone users are missing out on.

I think it will be a tough year but very progressive, hopefully. At least for Nostr.

I really aim to get more eyes on Android dev but I seem to prefer Rust-Nostr on desktop.. haven't had great luck with NDK.. feels like a tight spot when beginners are afraid of Rust and seem to have decent luck with NDK. I must be some weirdo 🤣 You are using NDK and Svelte I think? That's what I started with but have moved away from scary NDK 😭

Got to give them a run down of Nostr because of your rec! Hopefully I didn't overwhelm them too much 🤣 They seem great 😸

Glad you appreciated it! I'm a big fan of the game itself, only got into it during COVID with some classic drafting. My friends had played for years before that. For me Arena is the best option, but it has its reservations, and I think people should know what they're getting into. I still have more to learn about Wizards of the Coast as a company and their history. But the game is fun, no doubt about that.

Sorry, old post, but was just searching through the hashtag for mtg.

The online arena game is really good for learning to play, especially considering that different formats do exist. Someone in these comments recommended commander, which is fun, but you should learn the basic standard format first I think.

I would recommend playing the Arena version on any device, but try to avoid spending money on it. You should take a "parent's watch" to how your child engaged with the store and events in the game to ensure they aren't just throwing good money after bad.

I will say, if you play regularly, there is plenty of reason to pick up a battle pass from time to time and play drafts on your own dime to unlock lots of cards.

But putting a kid in this position would seem almost negligent without supervision. If they grow to love mtg, and win a lot, then maybe you could ease them into tournaments and stuff. Just keep an eye on the predatory nature of online games these days. Otherwise Arena is very, very fun.

Drafting in real life with friends, is also lots of fun, if you can find a small group to play with. For context, draft is when you break open packs and draw from those cards to build a deck. It's something you will learn in time and get better at if you stick to the game. I play mostly "historic" format which contains most cards ever released, allowing some of the freest gameplay. I also play standard and dabble in commander.

I recommend Arena because anyone can begin a collection as long as the game is around. It may incentivize you to buy sometimes- but you're never forced. Anyone could play for free and still obtain desireable cards, and enjoy playing with what they have. There is just self-control involved with the economics of trading card games. This is not unique to mtg.

None of them since we're pouring from a bottle

Content discovery is crucial but I have found the deeper issue is relay discovery. It's easy to think of it this way- you must know where content is located in order to search for it. I think the ecosystem as a whole is still levelling up in this regard. Basically all clients are still perfecting the relay discovery aspects. Some devs can focus on interesting methods of content discovery, but those are mostly "big daddy clients" like you said.

For small clients, it's more of a nightmare. Jumble.social is a good example of a new desktop/web client that is doing relay management right. But it's new- so relay discovery and content discovery are both basically non-existent.

I think your skills would be best dedicated to working with someone (like me, actually) who is driven to increase awareness of the development ecosystem around Nostr. There are lots of hurdles for people to learn if they want to build objectively "good" clients.

This is all to say, content discovery is actually kind of difficult right now. But I think clients who put relay management and discovery on the forefront are making the most headway.

Unfortunately I don't believe this is very representative of iOS clients. NoteDeck will likely do it right, but no telling when.

Flotilla for Android is finally breaching new heights for this ecosystem. But, there is not too many examples that I can give. Amethyst and Flotilla are peak Nostr imo. If I had an iPhone I would cry.

#Champagne problems 💯

I will potentially bring feature requests into your life some day. But we're still missing a final piece to this whole puzzle. Do you feel the winds of change?

Let me know if there's anything I can help you with. Documentation, image guides, whatever you might think of. If you can assign a goal, I can try to work toward it with you. My current plan is to create a full video guide featuring relay.tools, amethyst, and flotilla. To show how to create a fully sovereign ecosystem (with these apps I've personally chosen). That's my short-term goal, inspired by your release.

Good luck! ☀️

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The icing on the cake is that it doesn't immediately decrypt dm's. Like I have sovereign choice in this matter? Thank you! I'm comfortable using Amethyst for dm's still, so 👏👏👏

If I had 10x more zaps I would zap you 10x more times for this great app ⚡

Explaining #outbox to #iphone users

#memes

I'm looking to help build this type of client myself, exactly what you're saying. Reddit but with relays as the communities. The backend is already done @ relay.tools and we just need a proper desktop and mobile client to interface with it. Our time is coming

If you know any others interested in that type of client, send them my way, especially devs

Flotilla android app launches, and it's really fucking exciting. 🔥