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Replying to Avatar Max DeMarco

Never heard about nostr:npub1lmzc2834vuk9f2ug4gklyu2n4du9p9nwhaugtzak7l464drmdvvs38jfdp before.

Googled what their product is (lol the irony šŸ˜‚)

And jumped immediately onto the trial - let’s see.

That’s the nostr effect my frends šŸ«”šŸ«‚

I’ve been loving it so far. They also make a pretty great browser which I’ve been enjoying.

Replying to Avatar Max DeMarco

This is my RADICAL approach to how I would build a community-first Nostr client:

First of all: remove access to the entire ecosystem once a user logs in. (I know this sounds counterintuitive, but hear me out).

This is a community-first approach. Once you're onboarded by a creator, you don't want random Bitcoin or footstr content on your timeline. You came to interact with the community. In the beginning, give users as little choice as possible when it comes to interacting with the protocol.

All they see and feel is the core function of the client: COMMUNITY!

They didn’t come to grow their own community or make new internet friends—they came for the artist, the YouTuber, or whoever it is they care about.

So give them time to slowly get used to the new interface and focus on enjoying their first experience. How do we do that?

From a product and UX perspective, this means thinking about how users interact with the platform and designing an intuitive, engaging experience.

Based on conversations with my friends, here’s what they need:

User-first approach (duh): Users own their data and private keys but don't know that at first. The experience starts as a simple username-password login (NIP-07).

Onboarding: There needs to be a paywall (both fiat and BTC), with as little friction as possible.

Forum-style discussions: Organize content into threads/topics so users can easily participate in conversations.

Threaded discussions: Each thread allows for nested replies, much like Reddit or traditional forums, enabling deep, organized conversations.

Tagging system: Let users tag content by topic or interest to make navigation easier.

We don't want to overcomplicate things—just keep it simple. Make it a basic forum where they only see content from their community.

Voting/Engagement system: Introduce upvoting, reactions, or comments on posts—this is easy.

Now comes the magic of Nostr... with zaps (tips) or the ability to send money back and forth, users slowly realize that this is actually different. (You see? We’re getting there gradually.)

Moderation tools: Yeah, I know this sounds lame, but some creators wouldn’t want their forum spammed with footstr pics (sorry, guys). Allow some users to moderate discussions, flag inappropriate content, or create private spaces within the community.

This is the basic community client mvp. It would be enough for some creators who care about freedom and want to build a community on a self-sovereign level. The rest comes later down the road.

Private and public spaces: Offer both public forums and private groups where users can control membership and discussions—more options for the user.

Leaderboards: Show the most active or helpful members based on engagement, contributions, zaps, or participation.

Reputation: WoT, yes baby—now we're getting closer to the full Nostr ecosystem.

Achievements: Gamify the experience by rewarding users with badges or other forms of recognition for their engagement.

User-controlled feed: Implement a home feed based on the relays and topics the user follows - this is where I would open up the whole nostr ecosystem (how? I have no clue yet).

Analytics: Give admins and group leaders insights into community engagement, most active users, and popular threads.

User feedback system: Allow users to provide feedback on discussions, groups, and content, enabling continuous improvement for the content creator / community owner but also for the client.

These are my first thoughts.

After brain-dumping all of this, I realize that this almost works as a white-label solution for creators.

So… does this make sense? What do you think?

I know it’s radically different from opening up the whole Nostr ecosystem to users, but I want to experiment with this. Based on conversations I’ve had, people would be overwhelmed by too much too soon.

This also solves the problem of onboarding people and letting them follow random accounts. Here, they follow people with similar interests and those they already trust, which reflects trust onto the protocol as a whole.

I’m not sure if this will eventually lead to users discovering the full beauty of the Nostr ecosystem, but hey—that’s for later down the road. At least this is running on nostr in the backend.

Also, I have no idea how to code any of this. But I want to make it happen. This is me starting an open conversation.

Let’s see where this takes us and how we can make it happen together. 🧔

Great start for outlining the use case.

Not everyone in the world is as passionate about free speech as nostr early adopters. They are not as ideologically opposed to any limitations on visibility or access.

In fact, they see a lot of posts as noise that detracts from the JTBD that brought them here. In the case you outlined, that JTBD is following a creator and connecting with his community.

So you w laid out a very sensible onboarding flow for that customer segment.

Game designers have known this for decades. You don’t take a brand new player and drop them in the middle of the final boss battle with the full plethora of weapons and unlocks. It’s overwhelming and makes for a horrible UX.

Instead you take them through ā€œbasic trainingā€ and give them a sense of progress, accomplishment, and most importantly… fun!

Gradually unlock tools and features as you become more comfortable and engaged. You can even gamify the engagement to an extent, eg to unlock features you have to earn certain engagement badges, etc.

You make fine points as well. Zero snark detected in your earlier comment. We are aligned on the post-industrial dynamics around ā€œpublic healthā€

And that local municipal worker dialing back the fluoride… not all heroes wear capes.

I honestly don’t know who’s pushing this or why. Fluoride is already in the water systems so I can only assume this product exists because there’s demand for fluoridated water. Presumably because some consumers have been convinced that it’s healthy or protective in some way. And capitalism (of which I am a huge fan btw) or free markets more accurately will find and address most any market demand if there’s profit in it.

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open source language learning

I use Anki a LOT.

Great tool for custom flash cards and spaced repetition.

If you need to memorize information this is one of the best ways I’ve found to do so.

Read the flash cards while going on a walk for extra memory boost.

I honestly haven’t found a whole lot of value in the open source flash card decks. Many lack context or are poorly organized. But perhaps I just need to search more.

I just discovered that my wife’s understanding of spreadsheets is almost zero.

She has hardly any idea of what they’re capable, let alone how to use it.

I didn’t understand people could get this far in life and never really touch a spreadsheet.

Hand to God I will write a shanty for it if we can pull it off again. Event appropriate, laced with charm, and singable by all.

Let me know if I can help.

Having just completed a 48 hour fast I can confirm that the most essential ingredient to a truly memorable meal is… hunger.

Because those levels are what will save you from the inevitable dissenting mob who dislikes the truth.

TLDR = Bitcoin pumps when printer goes brrr, except for the end of a bull run.

Also: Bitcoin is savings technology.

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You guys have leveled up. So excited and proud. What a thing you’ve done. Can’t wait to swing by soon and hope I can actually find a space at the bar!!