Remind me again who it was that delivered video of US helicopters mowing down crowds of innocents? Was that the JBS or some militia group? I forget...

A guy going by the name of "Freedom Tech" has never heard of Wikileaks?

> Let me guess, you were unsuccessful in finding photos of that pesky curve?

Of course I can't find photos of something that you think should exist but does not. What a silly concept.

> Water doesn't curve

Damn, drops of water and waves must not exist then. I've been so blind!

> You can literally go and verify those sources and calculations yourself.

That's my line.

> this is how it always goes. First it was bouncing lasers off the moon, then you moved the next thing

This is what must happen when you refuse to accept the evidence for the previous thing. Either that or we stop talking.

> Now you're rehashing the fabled flights

That's it? Your entire rebuttal to the subject of those flights that absolutely do exist is simply smearing them as "fabled?"

If they're mere fables then the millions of people that flew them must be in on the conspiracy?

> Can you tell me how you verify ground speed over water when you're in a plane?

You just divide the miles by the time. Each jet has it's own top speed rating. None of those commercial jets have one fast enough to make up the difference of an extra 10,000 miles or whatever it would take to make the antarctic flight on a flat earth.

> it's just a coincidence that there are not an equal amount of times zone in the north and south

Why in the world would the southern hemisphere need an equal amount??? No one lives down there! Time zones are a political boundary and there are far fewer countries in the southern hemisphere.

> Do you have any exclusive evidence the earth moves around the sun?

Nah, Galileo made some great points and I've never heard them properly rebutted. What I've observed of the nature of the solar system (and yes I have a nice telescope) lines up perfectly with Galileo's model.

I see we just aren't getting anywhere because we don't trust each other's sources. Fine. How about we trust the commercial viability of an entire pair of flights that fly right over the south pole daily, each way, and has been doing so for decades?

Qantas QF 64 & it's return are daily flights that couldn't possibly be commerically viable if they flew over a flat earth. No matter if you beleive that the south pole is a perimeter wall or not, with no globe the huge distance between Sydney & Johannesburg would require more fuel than you could fill up the entire inside of the plane with!

Have any flat earthers explained (credibly) how the hundreds of people each day that take that flight were not really going over antartica like they thought they were, and didn't really arrive just a few hours (instead of days) like their tickets said they did?

For that matter, a flat earth would have flights over the north pole, like JL41 from Tokyo to London, go a lot faster than the curved path that they say they take. What are those flights doing up there for so long? Circling iceburgs to fool us all about the nature of the planet instead of commercially competing against rival flights?

The video shows nothing like what I'm talking about, only a few waves lapping the tiniest bit of the bottom.

The big ship in this video is like what I'm talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UySV0UeGfjU

That's the top 1/3rd of a ship.

I saw huge cargo ships with their hulls clearly visible and then hours later as they move out you can just see the cargo containers and then eventually just the very top level of containers as they disappear 10-15 miles away. (On a clear day.)

I saw the same effect in Bangkok and Oslo as well, very different conditions.

As for the laser tests, I've seen them done myself and they definitely get blocked. Period.

Now how do we get him active on Nostr?

> "You can recreate the effect you are talking about over a small body of water"

Um, no, you can't. If there's no curvature, then there's no hiding the bottom of the boat before the top. It's just that simple. I see nothing in your video that is evidence otherwise. (Not to mention the scale would be wrong.)

I can't shift any goalposts on a single claim. A claim that I am confident making, by the way, because I used to live near Long Beach and saw ships pulling out of LA's largest harbor daily. They always went 'over a hill' on the horizon, and never, ever, just kept shrinking until gone.

I won't try to 'steel man flat earth and geocentric positions.' It's not worth my time... But I can stand by a statement I've made and encourage you to verify, not trust, like I would to any would-be bitcoiner.

Can't we all just agree that slowly feeding him into a chipper-shredder, feet first, is the only just way to deal with him while keeping taxpayer funding low?

Until the day all the powerful organizations are disbanded, that's a sure way to put him back where he is now.

That depends greatly on what he had to sign to stay free.

Except that you can test for yourself how the universe works, and you haven't.

Are you anywhere near a port or busy beach town? It's SUPER easy to see what Columbus saw with boats disappearing bottom-first over the horizon as they travel away.

How does a geocentric world model explain boats looking like they are sinking rather than just getting smaller as they move away from a port?

Ah, good. It sounded kinda like you though arresting was too harsh. ;)

The problem with your plan is that most of the world is clueless. So few would even show up to mock him. :( Meanwhile there would be plenty of his loyal toadies (like the WEF & WHO) who are trying to free him.

Unfortunately, people like this need to be unalived before they are rescued from justice.

If we're going to be civil about it, yes.

What he deserves is a lynch mob to draw & quarter him without any due process.

Oh boy have you fallen in with a bunch of liars seeking attention. I don't know what to tell you bro, those tests do show a curved planet and these people are lying about the results they got.

There's only one way you'll ever know for yourself if they are liars though; and that's by doing the tests yourself. Only you have the power to find out if the world is flat, and if space exists or not.

It's good that you keep an open mind to conspiracies in this day and age, otherwise you wouldn't have found bitcoin and become far more wealthy than you would have otherwise... But as the old adage goes, 'be careful not to open your mind too much lest your brain roll out of your ear.'

In bitcoiner-ese that is better stated: "Don't trust, verify."

You're hearing what you want to hear with that "evidence." It doesn't disprove a thing that I said... Not even close. It just shows that in 1962 a MASER (microwaves) would reflect off the moon. Whoop whoop.

I know scientists who have done the lunar laser bounce themselves. In our modern times. They used a photometer, like photographers use, to count the amount of photos coming back from the moon.

When their beam wobbles a micromillimeter to the left of right of the mirror, they got zero photons back. But directly on it gets a measurable trickle. Regular ol' light.

Today you can buy lasers yourself that are far more powerful than they had in the apollo era. $200 can get you 2 Giga watts(!) of wood-burning laser that would be great to bounce off the moon yourself and see hit your photometer. I double-dog dare you.

Nah, here's where you're jumping the shark. Govt agencies have nearly infinite reasons to lie. Take the number of reasons you can think of and multiply that by every last person who works for the government and you're starting to get the idea of how many lies they make up or try to hide daily. It's their full time job. That's the only way they gain power and hide their immoral actions.

So no, releasing faked footage of activities they did doesn't mean "space is fake." That's a huge, huge mental jump. What it means is that there are things that they didn't want you to see. Or specifically around the Apollo missions, there are things they didn't want Russia to see.

If you want to prove to yourself that man has been to the moon, get a laser and bounce it off the mirror they left on moon for yourself. Plenty of nerds have done so already, like these: https://wtop.com/science/2019/07/the-experiment-still-running-on-the-moon-and-tv-re-runs-50-years-later/

If you don't want to prove it to yourself and blindly believe that the lies govt tells are so grandiose that every scientist on the planet must be wrong about the basics of how the universe works then I'd say you're more a part of the problem than of the solution.

Awesome. Let me know how you are enjoying it when you've finished Season 1. (If you can call these 10-epsode runs 'seasons' anymore.)

Man, what a blast from the past... I still remember waaaaay back in 2012/2013 when half the bitcoin community was constantly talking about how to use bitcoin payments in pay-for-wifi-service that we could all install on a small router appliance and place in malls and starbucks to generate an income with. We eventually learned about the issues making that impractical, but that didn't stop every shitcoin under the sun from marketing their coin as the one to offer paid wifi hotspots.

What exactly has Nodogsplash solved to make this practical finally?

It's not enough to "Defund" these rougue organizations... We must fund their assasins.

The thing about woke movies & series is that they are very director-dependent. Look at the Star Wars franchise since it got disneyfied. Rouge One, perhaps the best movie of the whole franchise was made and nobody hates the Mandalorian series... But Some of the new stuff is truly awful. You just gotta know which ones.

Give Star Trek: Strange New Worlds a chance. I'm actually loving it, despite it being a spin-off of the horrible franchise I just told you to avoid.