Replaceable events is not the right way to handle this use case. Instead, people should be able to issue either annotations that get shown alongside the original note, or patches that modify the note so people can see a history. Ruggability is not a feature.

How can we have zero-knowledge recovery that is user friendly?

Nostr, let’s take it to the gauntlet:

What’s the plural form of bitcoin?

bitcoins or bitcoin

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Is nostrdb a single-user solution, does it save decrypted data? Or is it really just like a local relay store?

It would be nice if all of these apps can support multi account switching without having to screw around with the data stores.

It's great, that's why I was able to make this demo of the app.

From what I can remember the web app can open Amber and send the event json but in amber I can't send the event or signature back to the web app. Every web app would have to create a dialog like nostr.rocks does and in amber you just copy the signature back to the web app. I have to test this more to see if I find a better solution.

Best solution right now would be to implement this in nostrnet.work apk or Spring

Thank you, are you working in somenthing like that?

Yes, AUTH is a fine solution if you don't care about the relay knowing about you. But a VPN or proxy and single-use connection would also obscure the identity of the sender (assuming the relay doesn't mind accepting the note for some other reason than authentication).

Is it just me, or does it seem like everyone is super reluctant to monetize services and relays on #Nostr?

If we can’t make these things sustainable then we will either lose them, or they will stay nothing more than a weird little corner of the internet with lots of hope but no chance of ever scaling.

I still haven’t seen the basic model of zap sharing tried by any major client or relay. But I DO see regularly comments about how expensive relays are. I mean it might not work, but can’t we TRY it?

I want to make the distinction here too that this doesn’t mean we are closing off the network, we are adding permissions to the protocol, this doesn’t suggest at all to used closed source code, we simply need the services necessary to keep this ecosystem robust, to be profitable and have the resources to thrive. If they aren’t, then NONE of this works. Economics is everything.

I know building features is more exciting. I know we all want to make everything that we can free, and I agree all of the *code* should be shared. However, I think there is a natural insecurity (and I say this because I have this problem personally) with charging a fair price, and fearing criticism or the ire of people who believe everything should be free (as in price) when we need things to be free (as in Liberty). They are not the same, and confusing the two could stifle, or drastically slow down, the insane potential of this place.

TL;DR We have GOT to divert some energy to thinking about how to make this ecosystem sustainable, or we will lose it.

(Disclaimer: this isn’t a judgement on whoever is thinking about this problem. It just *seems* like few are. If you are building in this way please share your ideas or what you are trying. I’m extremely interested)

I'm using it.

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