If they omit your vote, the citizen could see it wasn’t broadcasted by the hub with the ZKP. If the city hub omits the votes of too many citizens from X party or Y party, then city might riot — there would be local revolt. This may limit the scope of abuse.
Things to consider in the future…
Although, proof that a Sybil attack occurred doesn’t allow everyone to sniff-out/filter-out the fake votes… that’s the trouble.
You’d need to identify that valid votes and share them somehow, perhaps each city having a few hubs that broadcast votes if the humans are actually present. Max number of votes per city hub, based on city population. This way an attacker would need to occupy most hubs across the country to make a large dent, and could no longer change votes even if they do.
“Bitcoin is insurance against politicians.” ~#[3]
Nostr is freedom-of-speech insurance.
Only if there were some way to prove votes on a globally accountable layer 2 with verifiable credentials… Even if we can’t stop the VC Sybils, giving people proof that their vote hasn’t been changed seems powerful. Privacy-preserving votes with ZKPs is also possible..
I wonder… 💭 how much the results would differ from the official polls. 🗳️ If there were too many Sybils, the global vote count would rise above the population of America — so there’s a cap on the number of Sybils enemies could spin-up if all Americans actually voted.
The more Americans that vote and account their vote in this optional system, the harder it would be to perform a Sybil attack on the voting system.
Interesting thoughts on this Sunday evening. 🐝
#Bitcoin and #nostr are unenumerated checks and balances. :-)
"Throughout history many nations have suffered a physical defeat, but that has never marked the end of a nation. But when a nation has become the victim of a psychological defeat, then that marks the end of a nation."
Do not underestimate humanity’s collective unconscious, just give it a place to flourish…💜 I have deep faith in humanity’s emergent abilities now that it can be paired with decentralized technologies.🌐
We’re superpowering nature itself, removing friction from thousands of years of evolution. 🍀
I’m not sure what he was referring to. Just regurgitating his logic here. If FROST is just as easy to use for Lightning as MuSig, then I don’t see the point of MuSig either. :-)
Talked to #[2] about this at nostr beach in Miami.
He mentioned nesting frost inside of musig. This way you could setup Lightning channels with MuSig, but one of your MuSig keys is a collection of frost keys.
MuSig is unanimous and FROST is threshold. He said this would let you use FROST thresholds on lightning, since lightning is currently built around MuSig.
Rebuilding Lightning with FROST, Eltoo, and PTLCs directly built-in seems like a better approach in the long-run. 🐢
🌴 nostr:note1l4lhh3khs6d5qn7rk8yec38jldc7974djf4xpczxgm0rkfdakjpseuqlkr
We need PTLCs for privacy, Sats4files, and to mitigate these wormhole attacks. nostr:note1ealcjgedff7pcy0k5cp32dh5dhyv7sy0xzs920hmk70rhtwxl84qz0klz9
Wish this had more attention: nostr:note19x37mn7hqavsx6k6tlcpp0av4kmufzgwcwv9cjs8tctll4uk00wsl6zdpc
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