You really don't think they put in backdoors for the feds?
If lightning can't survive being censored, it's not censorship resistant and thus not useful.
What a bunch of crybabies. This is my new Code of Conduct template: https://github.com/sommerfelddev/sentrum/blob/master/docs/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
Let's be honest, codes of conduct are bullshit. Maintainers do what they want and ban who they want and that's fine. We too can always fork off if we don't like it.
People like this are so fucking unbearable. I'd ban all of them from participation in the project tomorrow if I were in Eelco's position.
Maybe doesn't need mass adoption to be useful but it needs more than it has, and more discovery tools / community tools.
But it's a social app, unlike a healthy meal, a social app is not useful if you're the only user.
Please tell me of a good client. I've used around 15 and I fucking hate email.
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Holy shit it's a miracle 😂
Yes and I don't like it, makes everything an over complicated shit show.
It's way more than 10x slower than c. It's more like 1,000-10,000x slower.
Did Bitcoin mining change forever yesterday 🤔
Hey nostr:npub1zmc6qyqdfnllhnzzxr5wpepfpnzcf8q6m3jdveflmgruqvd3qa9sjv7f60 l, @npub1lh273a4wpkup00stw8dzqjvvrqrfdrv2v3v4t8pynuezlfe5vjnsnaa9nk, and @npub1wnlu28xrq9gv77dkevck6ws4euej4v568rlvn66gf2c428tdrptqq3n3wr, I watched the announcement yesterday but came away with a lot of unanswered questions that I'll detail below. I would legitimately love to hear the answers to these if at all possible!
How is Ocean non-custodial for the average miner?
On the stream it was mentioned that payout thresholds are 0.0108 BTC (but nostr:npub1wnlu28xrq9gv77dkevck6ws4euej4v568rlvn66gf2c428tdrptqq3n3wr was unsure), a number that would take a pleb miner with an S9 ~470d to reach.
Until he reaches that payout point, all of his mined sats seem to be entirely custodied by Ocean.
How does Ocean decentralize mining today?
I was so excited by the teases and pre-announcements for Ocean as it sounded like exactly what I wanted in a Bitcoin pool. Unfortunately, it sounds like all of the decentralization possible is yet to be release, including StratumV2 and any ability for miners to submit block templates themselves.
Did I miss anything that makes Ocean more decentralized than other pools today?
Why is Ocean not open source?
If Ocean is as revolutionary and decentralizing as it's being made out to be, wouldn't the best thing for Bitcoin be that all pools switch over time to the same mode?
If so, why isn't Ocean open-sourcing any of it's protocol or code? In the announcement it seemed that nostr:npub1wnlu28xrq9gv77dkevck6ws4euej4v568rlvn66gf2c428tdrptqq3n3wr was bragging that no competitor would be able to "reproduce" their lead dev's code, thus keeping their competitive edge.
There was no mention to my knowledge of open source, but it's possible I missed it!
What guarantee do miners have that you won't censor transactions?
As miners cannot submit their own block templates right now and the source is not open code, miners have to rely on manually checking a visual block template on your site to find censorship.
nostr:npub1lh273a4wpkup00stw8dzqjvvrqrfdrv2v3v4t8pynuezlfe5vjnsnaa9nk has a history of censoring what he viewed as "spam," and there was a lot of time spent in the conference talking about how bad Ordinals are and how bad pools are that mine them.
What guarantees or promises do miners have that you won't censor transactions you don't like?
How will Ocean handle regulatory pressure to enact KYC?
In the event that regulators of the Feds come knocking and want you to implement KYC (as seems to be the case with other pools), what will you do?
What will Ocean's fee model be after the 0% period?
There was a lot of talk about how most pools subsidize larger miners and charge exhorbitant fees to smaller miners during the conference. One thing that wasn't ever mentioned was what Ocean's fee policy will be after the 2mo 0% fee period.
Could you explain how the fee model will work?
Conclusion
That's enough questions for now, I think, but I look forward to getting answers to these! We have a desperate need for decentralized mining in Bitcoin and a massive gap today.
I look forward to hearing back 🙂
Yeah, kinda weird that there's so much hype about it when there's basically 0 technical info out there. Hope it's legit.
Congrats to the nostr:npub1qtvl2em0llpnnllffhat8zltugwwz97x79gfmxfz4qk52n6zpk3qq87dze team! https://ocean.xyz/
Is there a technical description of how this works anywhere?
For a nation of dignified, free citizens to exist, it is not enough for that nation to have a collective force over which a majority of citizens wield theoretical soft power (democracy). The individuals and families that make up society must also directly wield practical hard power themselves.
This means some meaningful portion of families must have physical possession of their own energy, weapons, transportation, land, and more.
But today this also means free citizens must have genuine ownership of all their computers, including all embedded devices, as without that, physical possession no longer necessarily means true ownership.
If the free citizens of the nation can't be trusted with this hard power, then a culture compatible with liberalism has already been defeated and the people will never have freedom, dignity, or genuine rights of any kind until a culture compatible with these things is restored.
Privacy is the default natural state of the world, it is not an admission of guilt. Intentionally maintaining that privacy is in no way an admission of wrongdoing. Presumption of guilt, with the requirement to provide evidence of innocence, is a guaranteed way to destroy a free society.
Don't give in to the "what do you have to hide" narrative. The answer is "none of your fucking business".
Won't they just blacklist all known Nostr relays if Nostr becomes popular? Seems like it's just too small to be on CCP radar.