Subnostr

Why do you have carrots? I never trust carrots… where I am from “to carrot” means “to con.

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IntuitiveGuy☯️

You lier! I trusted you.. 🙃

.. that's fine, I like still, whatever you are 🫂🙃

🤣🫂

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Marcelinho

I think that when you trust someone, you give them the best possible

It’s just lifted from my rhymes book 🤷‍♂️

Trust is a complicated topic for me

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Pextar

😳

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Marcelinho

if i can't even trust the rabbit from the internet with the fancy italian french accent 😵‍💫

Non mi fido di me quando mi fido di te

I have a confession to make… I’m not really a rabbit 🫣

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Blazar

We need a class of warrior hackers who take an oath to defend decentralized platforms. Like the Templars and the holy grail. #protecc #freedom #decentralization

Cypherpunks?

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I hate to break it to you. He’ll love you conditionally. Unconditional love is the other way around. Parents to children. I know, sucks to hear when we didn’t get it from them.

Enjoy the movie!

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Watching a movie with my son. The one human who probably loves me unconditionally

I hate to break it to you. He’ll love you conditionally. Unconditional love is the other way around. Parents to children. I know, sucks to hear when we didn’t get it from them.

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I'm 100% with you on this, that's why I pushed zap splits and now I'm trying to contribute to Highlighter. I want an online economy to happen on nostr where value flows to every participant: relays, file hosts, content creators, curators, devs.

I acknowledge that grants make us complacent and remove pressure to build sustainable projects/businesses but I also think they are helpful for the people building the non-customer facing tech and bootstrapping the ecosystem. That's why I haven't reapplied for another grant after the previous one finished and won't be doing it. I want to stay independent and I prefer to let my work speak for itself and get funded by peers/customers.

I have to disagree with my fren nostr:npub1jk9h2jsa8hjmtm9qlcca942473gnyhuynz5rmgve0dlu6hpeazxqc3lqz7 here: If direct funding, zap splits and subscriptions aren't sustainable then nostr isn't sustainable and will die. I refuse to believe that and will keep fighting for nostr to succeed.

Thanks for this convo, I learned a lot.

Thank you. It helped me a whole lot as well. It was a discussion, not simply a dismissal. 🫂

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PABLOF7z

This would change the votes for the worse for sure

Why?

What about giving to the public: project, vote tallies and reasons for vote without saying who is who.

6 in favor, 3 against

Main reason(s) for approval: xxxxx

1 in favor, 8 against

Main reason(s) for the rejection: xxxx

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Luna

I tend to think about everything for a long time. I always grasp situations through my thoughts, but also through my intuition. That's not always easy. It's like an inner conflict. Thinking means security.

My intuition has not always served me well in the past. That's why (over)thinking has gained the upper hand recently. But for me to feel good, thinking and intuition need to be in balance.

Most of my thinking efforts go to attempting to understand my intuitions

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Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

I just wish that we find another model of monetisation than data mining or we’re heading towards the same shit we trying to escape. But mostly, I am just shouting into the void to bring some awareness.

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I understand how grants are needed. I also know what happens when an industry is left to rely massively on them (European film industry for example)

I don’t want to shoot down, I’m just curious about reactions, they give me “data” to get hopefully a little bit closer to the truth.

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Your concerns are valid, thanks for sharing those notes but I don't see anyone making the argument that grants are the way.

> I don’t like when things are presented in misleading ways. I have no beef with the idea of grants, but I feel something named OpenSats should be more open about its functioning.

I agree that being more transparent would help clear some FUD about OpenSats. I posted about it not so long ago:

As a nostr committee member I'm okay with all my opinions and votes being public. Grantees shouldn't be doxed but I don't see why the grant proposal and amounts shouldn't be public for transparency. It's not my decision tho, I just help review grant proposals.

People tend to think that the board of OpenSats chooses who gets the money but it's mostly the nostr committee, board members usually chime in if a tiebreaker vote is needed. There are several people with diverse backgrounds and perspectives in the committee and none of them have a vested interest in Primal. I won't directly mention them but they are people that have contributed a lot to nostr and genuinely want the best for the protocol.

> I don’t like seeing people with a successful past in data mining operate on Nostr, especially in a client that engages in npub/email matching.

Nostr is going to be data mined whether you like it or not, it's all out in the open. Nostr is for the stuff that you are ok sharing with the world. That said I think a KYCd wallet/client is a terrible idea and have voiced my disgust about it in the past.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

I just wish that we find another model of monetisation than data mining or we’re heading towards the same shit we trying to escape. But mostly, I am just shouting into the void to bring some awareness.

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I understand how grants are needed. I also know what happens when an industry is left to rely massively on them (European film industry for example)

I don’t want to shoot down, I’m just curious about reactions, they give me “data” to get hopefully a little bit closer to the truth.

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Matt

"unintentional gaslighting" isn't a thing - they merely argue from a place of ignorance. That's forgivable.

Gaslighting is an intentional and deliberate act and is, of course, despicable behaviour.

I don't think it'd be fair to tar both with the same brush.

Unintentional gaslighting is done without malice but still is « mental abuse”

Comes out of group think, people regurgitating without trying to understand.

Am I guilty of it? Probably absolutely yes. If someone notices it please let me know

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Can you share the note? I'd like to read the original argument.

I think direct funding and subscriptions are the way to make nostr sustainable in the medium to long term, grants are a way to bootstrap a rich app ecosystem in the short term. If you don't agree with grants you can just directly fund projects and devs but is not constructive to attack OpenSats or grants at this stage. My two sats.

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Can you share the note? I'd like to read the original argument.

I think direct funding and subscriptions are the way to make nostr sustainable in the medium to long term, grants are a way to bootstrap a rich app ecosystem in the short term. If you don't agree with grants you can just directly fund projects and devs but is not constructive to attack OpenSats or grants at this stage. My two sats.

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Can you share the note? I'd like to read the original argument.

I think direct funding and subscriptions are the way to make nostr sustainable in the medium to long term, grants are a way to bootstrap a rich app ecosystem in the short term. If you don't agree with grants you can just directly fund projects and devs but is not constructive to attack OpenSats or grants at this stage. My two sats.

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Can you share the note? I'd like to read the original argument.

I think direct funding and subscriptions are the way to make nostr sustainable in the medium to long term, grants are a way to bootstrap a rich app ecosystem in the short term. If you don't agree with grants you can just directly fund projects and devs but is not constructive to attack OpenSats or grants at this stage. My two sats.

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Can you share the note? I'd like to read the original argument.

I think direct funding and subscriptions are the way to make nostr sustainable in the medium to long term, grants are a way to bootstrap a rich app ecosystem in the short term. If you don't agree with grants you can just directly fund projects and devs but is not constructive to attack OpenSats or grants at this stage. My two sats.