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No king except God. Liberty and Revolution are Islamic Concepts. Federal/Confederal-ist. Right to self determination.

Absolutely brother, God bless you. And notice how Pharoah was using the Divide and Conquer method "made them sects/factions" this what we see from after the prophet pbuh till now especially the time when the caliphate/shura/democracy/etc was usurped by Muawiya and he used the same method to fool the levant people then used it when he was in power and also claimed only people of his tribe Quraysh could rule, etc. A whole lot of things that went down straying away from Quran and the Prophetic model of freedom, theodemocracy, autonomy and independence rights and self determination for whoever with guidelines and ways to show what is better but not enforced. Even the Abu bakr wars were mostly not for the mainstream reasons and he might've also made mistakes including accepting caliphate in that weird semi-unshuratic way but of course doesn't mean he was bad he just made mistakes and he is one of the early Muslims muhajireen and ansar who are guaranteed heaven even if they do mistakes it is just that not of ill belief. The problem is with the people not standing up to any big mistake and changing course as a collective and accountability. BTW even Abu bakr ra wanted people to make him accountable even by the sword and he wouldn't accept to rule unless with that. That shows the different class of thinking but doesn't mean they don't do big mistakes that accumulate until we get an easy ready made usurpation of the People's will and rights and freedoms by someone who didn't even become "Muslim" until the sword was on his neck and he isn't included in the السابقين الأولين من المهاجرين والأنصار the famous verse about the early Muslims of immigrants(muhajireen) and allies(Ansar) whih btw includes the early negashi ruler of Abyssenia who protected the muslims and became one secretly and the Prophet pbuh prayed on his death in absence ra.

How did you figure that I was "shia"? Sectarianism and seeing the world as sunni and shia instead of Islam and focusing on Quran first and Prophetic Sunnah secondly will lead you astray brother.

Seriously you are like a pest. Can you not think for yourself instead of label? It is a boring old game of sectarianism.

And btw the Arabic libraries(2) are more since they are the original works but now with llms being very good with translation even better than what google translate was before them you can easily translate and easily understand what's happening. I will try to translate using AI and making a library that combines the works of both libraries (a political ideological islamic governance party being mostly the works of its founder and then the library of a member) so the English github translations are for some of the main works of the party.

God bless you brother you can't imagine how happy your reaction made me. I'll be sure to save your socials because it is absolutely hard to find people who don't rely completely on scholars and making people sacred in an ideology and revelation that came as a revolution against exactly that and making people go back to submitting to God only not people.

Shiasm is wrong(for making a few people sacred among other things) but not outside Islam. Similarly Wahhabism(which is a disease that came out of Sunnism) and Sunnism(for making a lot of people sacred among other things). But should always be based in evidence and discussion if not then fear God and remember you're to be tried in judgement day on your own without scholars or people and you can't use that excuse.

Similarly Ahmad ibn Hanbal famously put his fingers in his ears trying to not hear anybody saying Prophetic hadiths he "didn't like". Seems like you don't like "Athar" when it's not favorable as if you're rejecting God when it suits you and following the ways of Jews and Christians in worshipping your scholars and masters. How about you be brave enough and refute the evidence and Fear God.

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الجامع الصغير وزيادته [الجلال السيوطي]

٦٦٤٨ - خَيْرُ أُمَّتِي أوَّلُها وآخِرُها وَفِي وَسَطِها الكَدَرُ(الحكيم) عن أبي الدرداء

Suyuti (Aljami' As Saghir) 6648 the Prophet pbuh said: The best of my nation is its first and last and in between it is the muddiness.

We've been plagued by the Judeo-Christian muddied jurisprudence and it is all built on the idol of the first tyrant and usurper Muawiyah who if God hadn't protected the religion he would've been the reason for it to be wiped and forgotten.

لتتبعن سنن من قبلكن شبرا بشبر وذراعا بذراع حتى لو دخلوا جحر ضب لدخلتموه ، فقالوا الصحابة : يا رسول الله، اليهود والنصارى؟ فأجاب ص: فمن؟

ورواية أخرى : لا تقوم الساعة حتى تأخذ أمتي بأخذ القرون قبلها شبرا بشبر وذراعا بذراع، فقيل: يا رسول اللن، كفارس والروم؟ فقال: ومن الناس إلا أولئك؟

To follow the traditions of those before you, inch by inch and arm by arm, even if they entered a lizard's hole, you would enter it. The Companions said: O Messenger of God, the Jews and Christians? S. replied: Who?

(Meaning the way of their religious practices like extremism, hierarchical religion, worshipping scholars and leaders, forgoing essential parts of deen like governance and such and focusing on prayers and such only with governance being a divine right for the monarch or whatever scholars lie to the people about starting with muawiya who founded this)

Another narration: The Hour will not come until my nation takes the nations before it, inch by inch and arm by arm. It was said: O Messenger of God, like a Persia and Rome? He said: Who are the people except those?

(Meaning the way of their governance monarchy and oppression /dictatorship)

There is a hadith that's been buried with ad hominem based attacks on whoever speaks the truth against a certain "First King in Islam" aka Pharaoh of Ummah and this is the work on this hadith that the prophet pbuh said to Abu Thar and Muawiya that one of them is Pharaoh of this Ummah:

https://t.me/mo2allafaty/30

And we know how that transpired and who fits the description someone who massacred tens of thousands of companions and Muslims in more than one occasion and also murdering in captivity companions like Adi ibn Hatim. Who can stand by saying they read the Qur'an and apply it but forget to do that when it's a supposed companion who is not amongst the early muhajireen and ansar who are by Quran guaranteed heaven obviously but this guy only became "muslim" when the sword was on his and his father's necks the last holdout quraysh kafir aggressor leaders at the opening of makkah close to the end of revelation and death of the prophet pbuh.

TLDR: Muawiyah = "Pharaoh of Ummah"—muddied Islam's middle era (per Hadith 6648: best 1st/last, middle muddied) by founding tyrannical monarchy/hierarchy like Jews/Christians/Persians/Romans; late convert, massacred companions. Return to prophetic purity!

(Library refuting monarchy, wahhabism, dictatorship, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, and proving democracy, self determination, scientific method to Qur'an and Prophetic Sunnah, Medina Constitution, and more)

Libraries of Islamic Governance Revival Research into Islamic history and hadith and guided by Qur'an waiting to be discussed, debated, refuted possibly, etc:

Arabic: https://t.me/mo2allafaty

https://t.me/tajdeedbooks

English: https://github.com/IslamicRevival/Tajdeed-English-Books

nostr:nprofile1qqs9el79v6jfeqcur6g4svzwzfkfs3qtelvwzm4ntss5nfrvylvdhnqpz3mhxw309akx7cmpd35x7um58gmnwdeh9uq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7tc8vtjk7 brother i believe that Islam is very much compatible mostly with Libertarianism as there is a main foundational verse of no compulsion in ideology/deen which reasonably includes everything from governance to individual rights as in if someone is not Muslim they have the total right to be governed by their ideology and that even a Muslim/non-Muslim can succeed or be autonomous, etc read the books(research into Quran and hadiths on governance) especially the latest one on Al-Hijrah (migration), Islamic Citizenship (and the right of self-determination).

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الجامع الصغير وزيادته [الجلال السيوطي]

٦٦٤٨ - خَيْرُ أُمَّتِي أوَّلُها وآخِرُها وَفِي وَسَطِها الكَدَرُ(الحكيم) عن أبي الدرداء

Suyuti (Aljami' As Saghir) 6648 the Prophet pbuh said: The best of my nation is its first and last and in between it is the muddiness.

We've been plagued by the Judeo-Christian muddied jurisprudence and it is all built on the idol of the first tyrant and usurper Muawiyah who if God hadn't protected the religion he would've been the reason for it to be wiped and forgotten.

لتتبعن سنن من قبلكن شبرا بشبر وذراعا بذراع حتى لو دخلوا جحر ضب لدخلتموه ، فقالوا الصحابة : يا رسول الله، اليهود والنصارى؟ فأجاب ص: فمن؟

ورواية أخرى : لا تقوم الساعة حتى تأخذ أمتي بأخذ القرون قبلها شبرا بشبر وذراعا بذراع، فقيل: يا رسول اللن، كفارس والروم؟ فقال: ومن الناس إلا أولئك؟

To follow the traditions of those before you, inch by inch and arm by arm, even if they entered a lizard's hole, you would enter it. The Companions said: O Messenger of God, the Jews and Christians? S. replied: Who?

(Meaning the way of their religious practices like extremism, hierarchical religion, worshipping scholars and leaders, forgoing essential parts of deen like governance and such and focusing on prayers and such only with governance being a divine right for the monarch or whatever scholars lie to the people about starting with muawiya who founded this)

Another narration: The Hour will not come until my nation takes the nations before it, inch by inch and arm by arm. It was said: O Messenger of God, like a Persia and Rome? He said: Who are the people except those?

(Meaning the way of their governance monarchy and oppression /dictatorship)

There is a hadith that's been buried with ad hominem based attacks on whoever speaks the truth against a certain "First King in Islam" aka Pharaoh of Ummah and this is the work on this hadith that the prophet pbuh said to Abu Thar and Muawiya that one of them is Pharaoh of this Ummah:

https://t.me/mo2allafaty/30

And we know how that transpired and who fits the description someone who massacred tens of thousands of companions and Muslims in more than one occasion and also murdering in captivity companions like Adi ibn Hatim. Who can stand by saying they read the Qur'an and apply it but forget to do that when it's a supposed companion who is not amongst the early muhajireen and ansar who are by Quran guaranteed heaven obviously but this guy only became "muslim" when the sword was on his and his father's necks the last holdout quraysh kafir aggressor leaders at the opening of makkah close to the end of revelation and death of the prophet pbuh.

TLDR: Muawiyah = "Pharaoh of Ummah"—muddied Islam's middle era (per Hadith 6648: best 1st/last, middle muddied) by founding tyrannical monarchy/hierarchy like Jews/Christians/Persians/Romans; late convert, massacred companions. Return to prophetic purity!

(Library refuting monarchy, wahhabism, dictatorship, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, and proving democracy, self determination, scientific method to Qur'an and Prophetic Sunnah, Medina Constitution, and more)

Libraries of Islamic Governance Revival Research into Islamic history and hadith and guided by Qur'an waiting to be discussed, debated, refuted possibly, etc:

Arabic: https://t.me/mo2allafaty

https://t.me/tajdeedbooks

English: https://github.com/IslamicRevival/Tajdeed-English-Books

Please take my words with an open mind and don't exclude me just because of biases or prejudices as i am not shia nor sunni just a Muslim who tried to follow Qur'an and Prophetic Sunnah using reason hopefully.

Sunni shia divide is all based on accumulated exclusion leading to accumulated ignorance and arrogance of not listening or reading. If you put people as sacred then it will be harder to read Qur'an and apply it wholeheartedly. The rule of all companions are good is not true not by Qur'an firstly and not by Authentic verifiable Sunnah.

It's better as a Muslim in Muslim lands to take your rights by your hands and return the authority to the people "ummah". You start by learning Islamic governance which is not in the accumulation of BS jurisprudence but in Qur'an and Medina Constitution and a bit more work towards studying and reviewing prophetic hadiths in relation to governance:

Here is a library that has done a lot of this work proving shura /theodemocracy/self determination /fightingthe oppressive regimes/disproving monarchy/dictatorships, etc :

English translations:

https://github.com/IslamicRevival/Tajdeed-English-Books

Arabic original work: https://t.me/tajdeedbooks

الجامع الصغير وزيادته [الجلال السيوطي]

٦٦٤٨ - خَيْرُ أُمَّتِي أوَّلُها وآخِرُها وَفِي وَسَطِها الكَدَرُ(الحكيم) عن أبي الدرداء

Suyuti (Aljami' As Saghir) 6648 the Prophet pbuh said: The best of my nation is its first and last and in between it is the muddiness.

We've been plagued by the Judeo-Christian muddied jurisprudence and it is all built on the idol of the first tyrant and usurper Muawiyah who if God hadn't protected the religion he would've been the reason for it to be wiped and forgotten.

لتتبعن سنن من قبلكن شبرا بشبر وذراعا بذراع حتى لو دخلوا جحر ضب لدخلتموه ، فقالوا الصحابة : يا رسول الله، اليهود والنصارى؟ فأجاب ص: فمن؟

ورواية أخرى : لا تقوم الساعة حتى تأخذ أمتي بأخذ القرون قبلها شبرا بشبر وذراعا بذراع، فقيل: يا رسول اللن، كفارس والروم؟ فقال: ومن الناس إلا أولئك؟

To follow the traditions of those before you, inch by inch and arm by arm, even if they entered a lizard's hole, you would enter it. The Companions said: O Messenger of God, the Jews and Christians? S. replied: Who?

(Meaning the way of their religious practices like extremism, hierarchical religion, worshipping scholars and leaders, forgoing essential parts of deen like governance and such and focusing on prayers and such only with governance being a divine right for the monarch or whatever scholars lie to the people about starting with muawiya who founded this)

Another narration: The Hour will not come until my nation takes the nations before it, inch by inch and arm by arm. It was said: O Messenger of God, like a Persia and Rome? He said: Who are the people except those?

(Meaning the way of their governance monarchy and oppression /dictatorship)

There is a hadith that's been buried with ad hominem based attacks on whoever speaks the truth against a certain "First King in Islam" aka Pharaoh of Ummah and this is the work on this hadith that the prophet pbuh said to Abu Thar and Muawiya that one of them is Pharaoh of this Ummah:

https://t.me/mo2allafaty/30

And we know how that transpired and who fits the description someone who massacred tens of thousands of companions and Muslims in more than one occasion and also murdering in captivity companions like Adi ibn Hatim. Who can stand by saying they read the Qur'an and apply it but forget to do that when it's a supposed companion who is not amongst the early muhajireen and ansar who are by Quran guaranteed heaven obviously but this guy only became "muslim" when the sword was on his and his father's necks the last holdout quraysh kafir aggressor leaders at the opening of makkah close to the end of revelation and death of the prophet pbuh.

TLDR: Muawiyah = "Pharaoh of Ummah"—muddied Islam's middle era (per Hadith 6648: best 1st/last, middle muddied) by founding tyrannical monarchy/hierarchy like Jews/Christians/Persians/Romans; late convert, massacred companions. Return to prophetic purity!

(Library refuting monarchy, wahhabism, dictatorship, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, and proving democracy, self determination, scientific method to Qur'an and Prophetic Sunnah, Medina Constitution, and more)

Libraries of Islamic Governance Revival Research into Islamic history and hadith and guided by Qur'an waiting to be discussed, debated, refuted possibly, etc:

Arabic: https://t.me/mo2allafaty

https://t.me/tajdeedbooks

English: https://github.com/IslamicRevival/Tajdeed-English-Books

Started by the Evil UK Empire occupation and the evil Secular Nazi Euro taught Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire with their agreements with the UK and such after their dumb alliance with Nazi Germany they were dealing with People's lives and lands as if it was assets to be given to the UK and France to save their sacred Anatolia for their pure race (which is farce no race is "pure")

This is Sudan 🇸🇩 (who are Arab Black people mostly) he is talking about in the post. Also fuck the Republicans and Democrats and Trump and Biden.

MBS and his family are UK made US bread evil tyrants. Allies of the Aggressor invaders, Enablers of Systematic Riba, Racist Nationality System that goes against Islam, Genociders of Yemen a worse genocide than Gaza but nobody cares, etc.

Thanks I'm paying attention to this.

Aggression indeed go back to europe where you came from aggressor invaders.

You're right they're just delusional. The sad situation of Muslims make people go to extremes in nonsense because they can't build on reason or on the Qur'an as the main guide to see/prove the sunnah and the world using the beautiful blessing called the brain 🧠.

They have no ground to stand on there is no Islamic governance in the world right now even if it appears so or say it in the constitution or be hardliners like taliban etc. The Taliban example they do internal spying (to keep the peace lol while torturing hizb tahrir peaceful members who are weak pacifists) so that alone nullifies it. And the others have usurious banking legalized not riba being done by someone as a sin but legalization of it. And many other things.