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noerms 2y ago

Yes, read that, thanks 🙏💜

So you would consider a standard 24 word seed not safe enough?

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Simon

Cryptosteel FTW.

noerms 2y ago

Thats the ones i would be afraid of loosing the order of letters/ words 😅

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TheGrinder

I don't really do phrases only keys but yeah, good luck remembering all your keys throughout the years. I've got two fire resistant cold storage metal cards and outside of that I just use 3 pen-drives duplicating each other, encrypted, stored in different locations. It's the only form of key storing I'll ever need tbh.

noerms 2y ago

I saw your YouTube video in saving keys 🙏💜

Why you don’t use seed phrases? Isn’t it more simple?

noerms 2y ago

Is pass phrases the 25. word i heard a lot about?

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Humble Henry

Trezor with Bitcoin only software is good. Also some steel plate or tube is better than paper

noerms 2y ago

Thanks 🙏

I am not sure about a lot of steel plates. Some are to engrave the seeds and i feel that oxidation especially related to a fire or water could make them unreadable.

Tubes are only to put a paper in, right? So its still the paper risk.

Then there are some steel wallet where you can put the metal letters one by one or tubes that store metal rings … with ghose i would be afraid that the order of letters / words might be destructed some day …

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alazne

Depends on your usecase and imagination of future spends/ transfers and your threat model.

noerms 2y ago

🙏💜

noerms 2y ago

Thanks mate, really appreciate it 🙏💜

That’s exactly the thoughts i had. Unfortunately you don’t find a lot about that topic online.

So if i see it correctly: if you have multiple seed phrases but store them all in the same lication, it is as safe as using just one?

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Fuchs

In the end, it depends on several factors, like what stack we are talking about and how comfortable you feel with it.

But generally speaking, I would chose one super cold wallet with the main holdings. If it is set up right (air-gapped, self created entropy) and the seed secured right (indestructible and safe) and ideally stored on your brain, I can’t really think of why multiple wallets would be better. Chose a 24 word seed and the entropy is so huge, that there is not a real difference whether you chose one or two seeds. Backup needs to be solid though. Steel backup put in a safe or somewhere hidden REALLY good should keep you safe.

noerms 2y ago

Thank you for the great answer 🙏

I don’t really know what air-gapped and self created entropy means?🤔😅

Also would you consider a safe deposit box at a bank as a „safe“ location? 🤔

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RobOK 🔸

Also if you “know” your words you might be subject to a physical attack if it is known you have it memorized. Physical attacks may get more common. #[4] tracks them

noerms 2y ago

Followed btw 🫡

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RobOK 🔸

Also if you “know” your words you might be subject to a physical attack if it is known you have it memorized. Physical attacks may get more common. #[4] tracks them

noerms 2y ago

Ok so if you know your seed phrase, let no one know you know your seed phrase 😅

Thanks mate 🙏💜

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