Perdi due ledger, ma per le 50 euro basta un po' di scotch:)))))))
Imagine if those two 50 euros, were two ledger full of bitcoin(i know you have your list of words for recovery, somewhere else), and you know dogs love to bite, lesson learned by the way, leave money or cold storage devices in a safe place. Immagina se quelle due banconote erano due ledger zeppe di bitcoin(anche se hai le 24 o 12 parole salvate in un posto sicuro).:)))))))))
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Sorry to hear that, i am try to convince Robosats users, not to use Revolut, which seems to be causing chargeback requests more and more often and in ever increasing percentage.
You're right that, at first glance, it seems like everyone gets what they want — but that’s exactly why this scam is dangerous.
The key issue is informed consent and misrepresentation.
The Bitcoin buyer thinks they’re paying the Bitcoin seller (scammer) — not some random MacBook seller.
The MacBook seller thinks the person paying them is their buyer — not someone buying Bitcoin.
Meanwhile, the scammer orchestrates the whole thing without spending a cent — and receives a valuable item.
This is a classic man-in-the-middle scam. The scammer exploits trust on both sides to steal physical goods without ever paying for them.
Even if no one initiates a dispute, the MacBook seller loses because:
They ship to a scammer.
They can’t contact the real payer.
They have no way to undo the transaction or recover the item.
It's not a “proxy buying service” because neither party agrees to be part of this triangle. That’s what makes it fraud.
👉 I’m not trying to lecture anyone — just raising awareness about a scam tactic that’s been affecting people recently.
The more people recognize it, the harder it becomes for scammers to succeed
You're right that, at first glance, it seems like everyone gets what they want — but that’s exactly why this scam is dangerous.
The key issue is informed consent and misrepresentation.
The Bitcoin buyer thinks they’re paying the Bitcoin seller (scammer) — not some random MacBook seller.
The MacBook seller thinks the person paying them is their buyer — not someone buying Bitcoin.
Meanwhile, the scammer orchestrates the whole thing without spending a cent — and receives a valuable item.
This is a classic man-in-the-middle scam. The scammer exploits trust on both sides to steal physical goods without ever paying for them.
Even if no one initiates a dispute, the MacBook seller loses because:
They ship to a scammer.
They can’t contact the real payer.
They have no way to undo the transaction or recover the item.
It's not a “proxy buying service” because neither party agrees to be part of this triangle. That’s what makes it fraud.
👉 I’m not trying to lecture anyone — just raising awareness about a scam tactic that’s been affecting people recently.
The more people recognize it, the harder it becomes for scammers to succeed
You're right that, at first glance, it seems like everyone gets what they want — but that’s exactly why this scam is dangerous.
The key issue is informed consent and misrepresentation.
The Bitcoin buyer thinks they’re paying the Bitcoin seller (scammer) — not some random MacBook seller.
The MacBook seller thinks the person paying them is their buyer — not someone buying Bitcoin.
Meanwhile, the scammer orchestrates the whole thing without spending a cent — and receives a valuable item.
This is a classic man-in-the-middle scam. The scammer exploits trust on both sides to steal physical goods without ever paying for them.
Even if no one initiates a dispute, the MacBook seller loses because:
They ship to a scammer.
They can’t contact the real payer.
They have no way to undo the transaction or recover the item.
It's not a “proxy buying service” because neither party agrees to be part of this triangle. That’s what makes it fraud.
👉 I’m not trying to lecture anyone — just raising awareness about a scam tactic that’s been affecting people recently.
The more people recognize it, the harder it becomes for scammers to succeed
It was only an example, the point is ,if you have to buy crypto, don't use revolut. That's all.
The one who sells sats, or goods is the one who lose. the one who send fiat money, with revolut can always request a chargeback
Hi, that is what i was suggesting to people using robosats. Or any p2p marketplace.
Triangulation fraud involves a scammer acting as an intermediary between the victim and the seller:
The scammer offers products or services on social media or other platforms.
When the victim contacts the scammer, they request advance payment (before the product is received).
At the same time, the scammer posts a buy offer on RoboSats for an amount equivalent to the expected payment. For example, if they claim to be selling a camera (which the victim will never receive) and price it at €1000, they will create or use a sats buy offer for that same value.
The scammer provides the victim with the RoboSats seller’s payment details (for example, their IBAN), so that the person buying the camera sends the €1000 and the RoboSats seller receives it without knowing what is happening behind the scenes.
After confirming receipt of the money, the seller releases the sats to the scammer.
Finally, the scammer disappears having obtained free sats without delivering the promised product or service, and the seller might later be implicated in a fraud claim because their bank details could be associated with the deception experienced by the victim.
Some strategies that may be useful to you:
Save the chat history and records of transactions conducted on the platform, as well as any evidence that could be useful later if disputes are investigated or complaints are filed.
Ask buyers to include in the payment a subject or message that makes it harder for the scammer to deceive you. For example, “By making this payment, I acknowledge that I will not have the right to a refund later” could be effective, since no one buying a second-hand item would feel comfortable sending money under those conditions. You can use any message you want as long as it does not violate the policies of the payment handler (many do not accept transactions related to BTC).
Ensure that this statement is clear, explicit, and linked to the exact amount of the transaction.
From learn.robosats.org
It is fiat that is recovered , btc or sats payments are irreversible.
Robosats, is peer to peer, you choose to release the sats, not the escrow(Robosats), it is about you and the other peer. These type of scams ,happens after a trade is concluded. Fiat has been sent , sats are released, the order on Robosats is concluded as succesfull, Robosats coordinator keeps 0,02 , 0,01 % for some coordinators as fees, and then there is a chargeback request. In case of a dispute, one of the two peers ,maybe has not received the money, or has sent fiat and the other peer has not received. The order is not concluded succesfully, and the coordinator in that case has to decide, with evidences provided by the two peers.
🔚 Final note: Stay safe out there.
If you're using RoboSats, you're probably doing it for a reason — to protect your privacy and stay outside of KYC surveillance.
That purpose is defeated when you use KYC payment methods like Revolut, Wise, or bank transfers that are tied to your real identity.
Even worse — those methods expose you to chargebacks, account freezes, and identity leaks.
🛡️ If privacy and self-sovereignty matter to you, consider using non-KYC, irreversible payment methods like:
🪙 Monero (XMR)
💵 Cash trades (in person)
🏦 Cash deposits at ATMs
🧾 Gift cards (P2P, trusted channels)
💲 USDT on-chain (e.g., Tron or Liquid network)
The fewer third parties involved, the safer your trade.
Stay private. Stay sovereign.
And always verify before you trust. ⚡
🚨 WARNING: New P2P Bitcoin Scam Involving Revolut and Online Marketplaces 🚨
There’s a growing scam that combines RoboSats, Revolut, and platforms like Facebook Marketplace or eBay.
It’s a classic man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack — and both Bitcoin users and online sellers can become victims.
🧠 Here’s how it works:
A scammer opens a BTC sell offer on RoboSats, requesting payment via Revolut.
At the same time, they contact someone selling an item (e.g., a MacBook) on Facebook Marketplace.
The scammer gives the seller’s Revolut account details to the Bitcoin buyer on RoboSats.
The buyer sends money (thinking it’s for Bitcoin), but it actually goes to the unsuspecting seller of the MacBook.
The seller, seeing the payment, ships the item — to the scammer.
The scammer gets a free MacBook, the buyer gets BTC, and the seller loses their item.
📌 Everyone loses — except the scammer.
🔐 How to protect yourself:
For Bitcoin buyers/sellers:
⚠️ NEVER send money to an account that doesn’t match your trade partner’s name.
Ask for a screenshot of the Revolut profile before sending payment.
Be skeptical of anyone who says “use my friend’s account” or “this is my assistant’s Revolut.”
If anything feels off — cancel the trade.
For marketplace sellers (Facebook/eBay, etc.):
Be cautious if someone pays via Revolut but the account name doesn't match your buyer’s.
Don’t ship products unless you’re sure the payment is legit and not part of a crypto scam.
If someone says “my friend will pay you” — it’s likely a scam.
Stay sharp. Scammers are evolving — so must our awareness.
Don't trust. Verify. ⚡
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🔐 ⚠️ P2P Bitcoin Traders: Beware of Revolut Chargebacks ⚠️
We've seen an increase in reports of users getting scammed on RoboSats and similar P2P platforms when using Revolut as a payment method.
Here's how the scam works:
A buyer pays you via Revolut for BTC.
You release the BTC after confirming receipt.
Days later, the buyer requests a chargeback through Revolut, falsely claiming fraud or an unauthorized transaction.
You lose the fiat and the Bitcoin.
💡 Important reminder: Revolut payments are reversible. Bitcoin transactions are not.
✅ How to protect yourself:
Avoid using Revolut or any other chargeback-prone payment method (PayPal, Wise, etc.) for P2P crypto trades.
Always keep proof of payment and screenshots of all communication.
Only accept payments from accounts that clearly match the user you're trading with.
Consider switching to non-reversible methods like:
💵 Cash
🪙 Monero (XMR)
💲 USDT (on-chain transfers)
💶 SEPA instant transfers (non-reversible in many banks)
🔒 The more privacy and decentralization we seek, the more personally responsible we must become.
Protect your sats. Don't trust—verify. ⚡
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### For Coordinators
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This is an example of what could happen: The scammer will pretend to be a reputable merchant looking to buy or sell crypto on Robosats. They'll contact their victims on Telegram, WhatsApp, or social networking platforms and send the victim their bank account details and a link to a P2P ad to let them know they'll be making a payment via this account. The scammer will then ask the victim to confirm that they've received the account details by having them copy them over to the chat on the order page.
The victim doesn't realize they are sharing the scammer's bank account details in the chat of an unrelated buyer, who is also unaware of the scam. The victim then releases their crypto to the unrelated buyer, who unknowingly sends money to the scammer's bank account.
If the victim tries to reverse the transaction by opening a disoute, there isn't much coordinators can do. Because all communication with the fraudster took place outside the Robosats platform, and the buyer sent their funds to a third-party scammer account
