Two theoretical alternatives
For my sins I linked an ancient piece in Romanian from a recent piece on Argentina. The language barriers are too much for the readership, so it loudly clamours for relief. I see no option but to translate. Here goes :
Given the following image taken from dtngi :
In brief, for the blind : three chicks, Rodica, Calina and Catalina, born off the same egg at the same time (and consequently triplets) rub together for the delight of onlookers. They're sisters.
This is valuable in itself, given that a life spent without having fucked twins is a life wasted, and I'm under the impression that none of you fucked twins (we're not discriminating by gender, girls also must fuck female twinsii, that's the problem ?). As a bonus, the fact that the girls lick and suck each other like normal people is a big deal, in a thirld world country befouled by the saddest imbecillity imaginable. The girls have, in other words, some competitive advantages.
This is also rare, triplets occur naturally less than once in ten thousand live births, twenty years ago there weren't that many fertility treatments to bother the frequency, and given Romania's ~200k yearly live births we could guess there doesn't exist in the whole country any other troop of girls to compete, which is to say both a) be triplets and b) healthily assume their own sexuality.
In spite of these marked advantages, nothing came of these girls. They didn't manage to economically exploit their priviledged situation of having exclusive control over a rare, sought after good ; but instead sucked it cold, pointlessly.iii Why would this be ? To answer this question, we've invited in our studio two experts in the wider or narrower matters discussed, which is to say Mr. Mircea Popescu, ex-minority partner in various cunt-exploitation enterprises and current owner of sameiv, as well as an anonymous young lady, ex as well as current visual service provider for generous gentlemenv (but not in Romania, because you have no money). The discussion flew as follows :
Some Guy : 
Saturday, 13 August, Year 8 d.Tr.
Two shits
The first shit in a purely aleatoryi two-shits list is The Manii ; the second shit is Walk of Fame Same Shameiii. They're both the same film, and not just in the sense that everything coming out of Hollywood is and has for a long while been the same dream.
They're both "fish out of water" stories. In both the fish out of water is a "middleclass value" : the irl-septuagenarian "polite"iv "businessman"v vs the irl-quadragenarian "hot"vi "career woman"vii.
In both the land upon which the fish walks is... well... what is it ? The "ghetto" ? Tell you what, when "in here, you're the nigger", the proper term no longer is ghetto. The ghetto is a tolerated minority, not a majority upon whose tolerance your continued existence is predicated. In fact, the proper term for a ghetto of this latter kind is reality. Obviously. These fishes out of water are really out of the water of their own fictional existence. Someone punctured the dreamer's tank in either case, and made the contents his bitch.viii
In both the script's contortedly idiotic, with so many plot holes and so much fridge logic generally that it's scarcely worth the mention. In both "the police" and more generally the state-society is represented as pointless, meaningless and a nuisance at best, except in the male version they're there to be humiliated ; whereas in the female version they're there to be feared. The males in the male version need and want no friends ; the female in the female version depends entirely on a mini-herd. Do these minor points constitute differences, in your view ? To humiliate and to fear ; to reject and to depend upon. Sides of the same coin, absolutely, but then again that's exactly how the country of "teaching the controversy" works, isn't it ? Well... "works", on the purely masturbatory, mentalist level.
I wouldn't recommend seeing either ; but perhaps seeing both may be useful as an instructional tour for the recently saved. Viewer's discretion advised - there's obscene amounts of stupid on display.
———Ever heard "alea jacta est" ? Well, that's whence alea-tory : dice-born. [↩]2005, by Les Mayfield, with Samuel L. Jackson, Eugene "We'll tell your mother we ate it all" Levy. [↩]2014, by Steven Brill, with Elizabeth Banks and some male underwear models. [↩]Fetishistically interpreted : he doesn't say the "bad" words. That's it and that's all, he's the soul of impudent impolity, but that's another matter, for rich people. The squarejaws of United Bestcountry are too poor to afford manners just yet. [↩]What used to be the Serene Republic's trader is now a lowly mountebank with a ready supply of cheap plastic shits. [↩]She's a sort of Ginger Rogers / Jane Fonda for a new generation - apparently they bake one of these cakes every thirty years or so. [↩]"She wants to be an actress...or a, uh, model...or a dancer...or a...news woman." [↩]Anglos, faggots as always, can only tolerate the statement in its male-on-male proper presentation. If a cunt's involved then the male has to be neutered - both visually, by making him a pubescent child with large glasses ; and orally, by having the other props disown and disavow him - and the act may not be consumed. Seriously, the woman wouldn't show her tits ? In what fucking dreams, this ? [↩]
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Monday, 25 July, Year 8 d.Tr.
Turkish Delight
Turkish Delighti is an exact equivalent to Daisies, except recounted from the adolescent male perspective, rather than the adolescent female perspective. This principally means that it is an enduring, moderately optimistic, pleasant space - in stark contrast to the moonlit writhing ball of insanity and neurosis slowly collapsing inside its own inner garbage that the other one necessarily brings forth.
Of note, in no particular order : that the older woman is neatly and fairly represented as what she is : the annoying extra, spuriousii and aware of her spuriousness (which awareness, denied and overcompensated, is the principal driver of her annoying manner) ; that the characters that actually matter treat her with the condescendence that she properly deserves ; that the shots are taken correctly (which is to say - without any attempt to hide arbitrary parts of the human anatomy) ; that a reasonable rendition of a Euro-style party is actually presented - yes, that's what we do, tease everyone to shit, push married women to extramarital sex, good times ; the exquisite scene where a woman comes to the guy to be fucked, but brings her infant along in a pram and, when the babe starts crying during intercourse she hooks her arm agains the handle and transforms part of the primordial movement into a soothing shake that puts the already delivered baby to sleep ; and others.
Verhoeven is at the beginning of his career, which shows, to some degree in the vague sexpolitation-y air of the entire productioniii and to a much larger degree in the amusing circumstance that plenty of scenes sound a lot better read than they work in actual cinematography. Take the flowers laid on the maiden's chest that leave behind the signs of death, an otherwise delicate poetic dream, as a sole example out of the dozen+ available.
The film makes the peculiar choice of making the woman not good enough for life. This is not the normal state of things. Nevertheless - one could scarcely call himself a cultivated gentleman while being unaware of Turkish Delight.
Enjoy!
———aka Turks fruit, 1974, by Paul Verhoeven with Monique van de Ven, Rutger Hauer. [↩]The film is notable for containing the apoteotic scene of menopausal irrelevance, whereby the man is fucking the woman and the old bitty walks in, gets all aggitated to apoplectic levels, eventually resolves to stop the act through banging her ineffectual fists atop the man's ass to heavy comedic effect. [↩]It's quite clear filmed in the places, by the people that did the pronos - with an o! Then again this may not be a problem of skill as much as absence of resources. [↩]
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Friday, 19 February, Year 8 d.Tr.
Tropic Thunder
Tropic Thunderi was a marginal box office flopii, and otherwise an exercise in forced comedy and unfunny whining the likes of which the world had never seen. Not since the Hollywood adventure of that other Ben Stiller, at any rate.iii
Ben Stiller is what he always was, and forever will remain : the sociopathic kid that doesn't really understand why the other kids are laughing - or for that matter why they're doing any of the things they do. So he dedicates himself to coldly, mechanically attempting to reproduce emotion in his barren interior - or at the very least, to reproduce the outward marks and tells, as close to life as possible.iv
This then is his crowning achievement in emulating humanity - specifically, the life and times of a guy that's a famous actor. He really pulled out all the stops, much like Tucker Max, and much in the same style. There were "clever" Internet "tricks" nobody outside of TV executivesv and paid assistants thought much of. There were names bought for the name only, because what better way of writing an important paper than getting an important scientist to coauthor it ? There were jokes, that didn't work, and exploitation so drastically bare it wasn't even funnyvi. There was anything and everything an estate lawyer could have possibly come up with to "minimize risk" and "ensure success". The risk is well minimized, the success is well elusive - but hey, at least it made its money back at the box office.
I wouldn't recommend seeing this thing, unless you're driving a wedge between a fuckable girly recently extracted from a libertard milieu and the residue of what she thought were her thoughts, ideas and principles. Then you can point to Stiller who whines about not getting an Oscar though he thinks he deserves one amid people who live off his whining and so agree with him, and help him make a movie about Ben Stiller who whines about not getting an Oscar [in the fictitious environment of the film, which is about life, which, to him, is a film anyway] amid people who for some reason (guess) also agree with him. And then that film gets one Oscar nomination. Which isn't for him - the only actually talented actor in the pile of marketing-created abominations ends up stealing the show. Because really, on a backdrop of Tom Cruise, Ben Stiller or Nick Nolte, your uncle looks like he should get the nom.
She'll probably get it - and if she doesn't, you really need to refine your selection criteria. Maybe also kill her, broads that dumb shouldn't be allowed to exist. Not outside Cosmo and "romantic comedies", at any rate.
———2008, written by Ben Stiller, directed by Ben Stiller, produced by Ben Stiller, with Ben Stiller and a star-studded, washed up supporting cast made up of a bunch of have-beens (Tom Cruise, Robert Downer Jr, Nick Nolte - whatever they've ever been it didn't particularly include being good at their job) plus (well paid) cameos from Tyra Banks, Ethan Cohen etc. [↩]Grossed 110 mn on a 92 mn budget, if you know how these things work. It never ranked, either. [↩]Looking at the sad 2008/2009 cinematic season, a famous FOCA quote comes to mind.
Nu vreau sa te deprim, da' astea-s cele mai de cacat idei posibile ; nu au nici un sens. Nici tu nu ai nici un sens. Ar trebui sa mori ca te-ai gindit la ele ; nici nu stiu cum de n-ai murit inca. Nu o sa placa nimanui niciodata. Ideile astea is de vina pentru holocaust si diaree si SIDA. In pula mea, sosete cu gluga ?! Serios ? O sa te faci de ris si pe mine, indirect, ca te cunosc, si-am stat linga tine, si te-am vazut si n-ai murit cind le-ai gindit. O sa trebuiasca sa ne sinucidem daca afla cineva vre-odata ca tu chiar...
It goes something like "I don't want to depress you, but these are the shittiest ideas possible ; they make no sense. You make no sense either. You should die for coming up with them ; I can't even guess why you're not dead yet. Nobody will ever like them. These ideas are to blame for the Holocaust and diarrhea and AIDS. My cock, socks with hoodie ? Really ? You'll be a laughingstock and so will I, for the fault of knowing you, and being nearby and seeing you when you cooked them up. We will have to kill ourselves if anyone ever finds out that you really..."
It's what it is. [↩]Ever wondered why he has to be "the lead actor" ? No, it's not vanity - it's impotence. The best he can do in the vein of humanity is where he pairs with an actually talented human and manages to inwardly maintain the delusion that the film's about him, and that he's the central character, while the rest of the world pays him no mind being occupied with the more talented if otherwise castrated Edward Norton. [↩]Who names a bar "Cheers" ? [↩]He clearly, in his shrewd, insectoid mind figured he wants to make Tom Cruise jump on a couch - but to get around the obvious impossibility, he settled for having the man "be very angry" and "dance". You see ? It's just like "being very excited" and "jumping on the couch", and this counts then as a joke. For bonus points Tyra Banks was there as a sort of Oprah, so it all comes together - and if you don't think this is amusing you just don't get it.
This is how Ben Stiller's head works. Let's hope he has no children. [↩]
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Monday, 23 May, Year 8 d.Tr.
Tropic Thunder
Tropic Thunderi was a marginal box office flopii, and otherwise an exercise in forced comedy and unfunny whining the likes of which the world had never seen. Not since the Hollywood adventure of that other Ben Stiller, at any rate.iii
Ben Stiller is what he always was, and forever will remain : the sociopathic kid that doesn't really understand why the other kids are laughing - or for that matter why they're doing any of the things they do. So he dedicates himself to coldly, mechanically attempting to reproduce emotion in his barren interior - or at the very least, to reproduce the outward marks and tells, as close to life as possible.iv
This then is his crowning achievement in emulating humanity - specifically, the life and times of a guy that's a famous actor. He really pulled out all the stops, much like Tucker Max, and much in the same style. There were "clever" Internet "tricks" nobody outside of TV executivesv and paid assistants thought much of. There were names bought for the name only, because what better way of writing an important paper than getting an important scientist to coauthor it ? There were jokes, that didn't work, and exploitation so drastically bare it wasn't even funnyvi. There was anything and everything an estate lawyer could have possibly come up with to "minimize risk" and "ensure success". The risk is well minimized, the success is well elusive - but hey, at least it made its money back at the box office.
I wouldn't recommend seeing this thing, unless you're driving a wedge between a fuckable girly recently extracted from a libertard milieu and the residue of what she thought were her thoughts, ideas and principles. Then you can point to Stiller who whines about not getting an Oscar though he thinks he deserves one amid people who live off his whining and so agree with him, and help him make a movie about Ben Stiller who whines about not getting an Oscar [in the fictitious environment of the film, which is about life, which, to him, is a film anyway] amid people who for some reason (guess) also agree with him. And then that film gets one Oscar nomination. Which isn't for him - the only actually talented actor in the pile of marketing-created abominations ends up stealing the show. Because really, on a backdrop of Tom Cruise, Ben Stiller or Nick Nolte, your uncle looks like he should get the nom.
She'll probably get it - and if she doesn't, you really need to refine your selection criteria. Maybe also kill her, broads that dumb shouldn't be allowed to exist. Not outside Cosmo and "romantic comedies", at any rate.
———2008, written by Ben Stiller, directed by Ben Stiller, produced by Ben Stiller, with Ben Stiller and a star-studded, washed up supporting cast made up of a bunch of have-beens (Tom Cruise, Robert Downer Jr, Nick Nolte - whatever they've ever been it didn't particularly include being good at their job) plus (well paid) cameos from Tyra Banks, Ethan Cohen etc. [↩]Grossed 110 mn on a 92 mn budget, if you know how these things work. It never ranked, either. [↩]Looking at the sad 2008/2009 cinematic season, a famous FOCA quote comes to mind.
Nu vreau sa te deprim, da' astea-s cele mai de cacat idei posibile ; nu au nici un sens. Nici tu nu ai nici un sens. Ar trebui sa mori ca te-ai gindit la ele ; nici nu stiu cum de n-ai murit inca. Nu o sa placa nimanui niciodata. Ideile astea is de vina pentru holocaust si diaree si SIDA. In pula mea, sosete cu gluga ?! Serios ? O sa te faci de ris si pe mine, indirect, ca te cunosc, si-am stat linga tine, si te-am vazut si n-ai murit cind le-ai gindit. O sa trebuiasca sa ne sinucidem daca afla cineva vre-odata ca tu chiar...
It goes something like "I don't want to depress you, but these are the shittiest ideas possible ; they make no sense. You make no sense either. You should die for coming up with them ; I can't even guess why you're not dead yet. Nobody will ever like them. These ideas are to blame for the Holocaust and diarrhea and AIDS. My cock, socks with hoodie ? Really ? You'll be a laughingstock and so will I, for the fault of knowing you, and being nearby and seeing you when you cooked them up. We will have to kill ourselves if anyone ever finds out that you really..."
It's what it is. [↩]Ever wondered why he has to be "the lead actor" ? No, it's not vanity - it's impotence. The best he can do in the vein of humanity is where he pairs with an actually talented human and manages to inwardly maintain the delusion that the film's about him, and that he's the central character, while the rest of the world pays him no mind being occupied with the more talented if otherwise castrated Edward Norton. [↩]Who names a bar "Cheers" ? [↩]He clearly, in his shrewd, insectoid mind figured he wants to make Tom Cruise jump on a couch - but to get around the obvious impossibility, he settled for having the man "be very angry" and "dance". You see ? It's just like "being very excited" and "jumping on the couch", and this counts then as a joke. For bonus points Tyra Banks was there as a sort of Oprah, so it all comes together - and if you don't think this is amusing you just don't get it.
This is how Ben Stiller's head works. Let's hope he has no children. [↩]
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Monday, 23 May, Year 8 d.Tr.
#trilema bot spec
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Wednesday, 14 September, Year 8 d.Tr.
Too poor for trees, too dumb to know it...
Today's log created quite the soup in my head.
For one thing, there's an ancient discussion on Nick Szabo's blogi. Turns out that back in 2006 he attempted to make the point that "law enforcement"ii is the underpinning of all crime ; but it came out in a very soft formulation indicative of a corrupted soul - "governments kill more people than terrorists".
The formulation is weak because it admits not merely the form of the discussion proposed by the evil in question, but outright adopts its terminology. This is plainly antirevolutionary thought, there to make socialism (usually of the slightly abridged, single-issue-patched variety the writer contemplates) more palatable in general ; not there to remove the evil root and all. That the man hasn't figured out the basics in spite of dabbling in the conculsions a decade ago should in itself settle the corruption pointiii.
As you'd expect, he then engages in faux debates with other socialist minds, who have other patches in mind for other areas of the Great Calender : "war" or "poverty" or "mosquitoes" or whatnot. The result ? They spend a few hours fastidiously calling each other "the bad word" in each one's estimation and then go have a bite to eat (provided by USG) and quickly to bed (provided by USG) because tomorrow (provided by USG) they gotta show up to work (provided by USG).
For the other thing, Qntra published a piece on the Dicamba Disaster. The short version of this endless smoldering shitpit is that a new juncture just played out in USG's constant and universal pursuit of the star pattern : USG.Monsanto came up with a major improvement, a magical concoction which could finally turn farming from defensive to offensive. The unfortunate byproduct of its deployment is that trees can no longer grow in the domains of the Great Inca. Yes, you've read that right : no.more.trees.iv
And guess what ? This is okay.
Yeah, you've read that right also : the Great Inca thinks it is okay for there to grow no trees, just as long as he gets a little more inca. And it'd be alright if there rained frogs - weekly ; daily, all the time - just like it's alright if you lose your first son, and for that matter all your sons. After all, it's all for "the greater good", you know, war-poverty-malaria&smoking.
I don't know whether or how much you're enjoying being on the stage - but let me assure you that as far as the spectatorship is concerned, the show you're putting on is definitely worth the (negative price) entry fee.
———I'm not gonna link to usg.bloghost. You want a link, become independent. [↩]The quotes are there because the term is currently being misused by socialist gangs - definitionally illegitimate in all times and places, no matter what nauseating claims their own agitprop units put forth, nor whether they manage to convince some for brief stretches.
All socialism, no matter the flavour, is definitionally illegitimate, no matter the "context", and all those involved will hang, no matter the excuses. [↩]He's by no means the first one. [↩]This is not a joke, nor is it an exaggeration. Your current ability to see a tree depends on everyone-else not killing it. The tree in question doesn't matter, whether it's the poplar down the street that figures in that picture of that girl which for all these years you've kept, yet for all these years you've never published ; or the peach in granpa's yard, that you nearly fell out of when you were seven, or any other tree. Like the ones that allow the birds to perch. Which birds ? All the birds.
What matters is that trees can't grow next to Dicamba, and the people ruining the soil to sell it to the Chinese in their preferred packaging (soy) now have an economic incentive. [↩]
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Monday, 15 August, Year 8 d.Tr.
Today on Trilema : A history of the Polar Crabs ; A Discussion of Very Deep Globules ; A General Theory of the Corn Cobb as well as an Autobiography of Herzog Balthasar Hedgehog by Mr. Burt Mugg.
I'm sorry, I've got nothing to say, I just throught the title was pretty good.
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Monday, 25 April, Year 8 d.Tr.
To be clear : Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election on June 16th, 2016.
Here it is :
asciilifeform 'Shut down the mechanisms used to transmit criminal profits by shutting down untraceable Internet payment schemes.'
Wednesday, 09 November, Year 8 d.Tr.
Tight Science, Loose Pseudoscience, and a Warm Pot to Piss In (intellectually speaking)
Pseudoscience is not exactly an unfamiliar concern here on Trilema - even when the term is not explicitly mentioned, most of this blog, from its origins to the seven years later present day chiefly deals in imposture, no small part of which being intellectual.i
On that solid basis, we are allowed today to make a very instructive comparison, opposing actual scholarship as represented by yours truly to amateurish balderdash, as represented by Steve Dutch (an unqualified nit, in this field, and otherwise a practicing geologist from University of Wisconsin - Green Bay). We'll be culling from "Science and Pseudoscience", a thorougly amusing exercise in anthropologic narcissism. Here goes :
To quote his explanation,
Theories that claim to be scientific but fly in the face of scientific consensus are often called pseudoscience, and the clash between science and pseudoscience is a recurring theme in Cosmos. Above is an attempt to classify knowledge and represent the major domains of intellectual activity. For every legitimate intellectual activity there is a counterculture equivalent. It frequently comes as a revelation to people to learn that there is an intellectual counterculture, that not everything claimed to be intellectual really is.
which of course brings to mind a "joke", oft retold on Trilema in its neverending quest of silencing idiots, pompous nitwits and other steve dutches :
During the class of "Appreciation of the Great Accomplishments of the Soviets under the Englishtened Guidance of Comrade Stalin, Defeater of the Saxons, Sovereign of Everything" (AGASEGCSDSSE for short) this guy in a suspicious dark suit and wearing sunglasses indoors is explaining to the famished kids how great life is for children in Stalin's Soviet Union because they get icecream, and how horrible life is in the Evil Capitalist Pig Empire of Imperialism, where children have to take it in the ass during private parties for the old rich folk. At about this point in the festivities, Svetlana starts crying.
"What's the trouble, little girl ?" asks the friendly doberman.
"I want to go to the Soviet Union!!!!"
So then, wouldn't you agree that it'd be nice and good to engage in "Fine Arts", whereas engaging in "Artistic Narcissism" would be bad and undesirable ? Really ? What gave it away ? Was it the term "Narcissism", because in the particular flavour of socialistoid pseudoscience (aka ideology) you inhabit that is the code word for those nasty kulaks who keep preferring unwholesome things for no comprehensible reason anyone could state ?ii And if you were confronted with actual items, as opposed to summaries produced by summary-readers, trustworthy fellows who never saw the thing in question, what then ? Oh, you carefully avoid looking at any actual items, but instead stick to the safety of some echo chamber or other ? Good for you! I hear that's how you get to that kingdom your father reserved for you in Heaven.
We can agree that Pangloss does the best possible work, scientifically speaking, at the best possible University on the side of the greenest bay ever seen by human eyes (for which reason they call it "Green Bay"). We can also agree that stat rosa pristina. What we can't possibly agree is that a constructive view of stupidity as "anti-intelligence", a sort of backwards world where up is down, down is up, they say hello when they leave and goodbye when they meet could ever have anything to do with the subject matter, or be in useful to any actualiii purpose. We can't agree to this for the exact same reason we can't agree to Cartman's view of cunts (they have balls, right guys ?) : anyone who's even remotely seen the thing immediately knows that this isn't a fucking elephant, but a strange dog with popcorn toes chewing on a garden hose that someone affixed a cardboard garret to.
There is no such thing as "scientific consensus" ; moreover if such a thing appears to be, there's necessarily no science to be had anywhere between the consensiheads. Counterculture is a very strange thing to put on the same side as pop-whatever, because pop[ularization] IS counterculture. The two are the exact same thing. "Modern democracy", ie uppity jobbagy who are guilty of the physical absence of their lordiv keeps trying to pretend otherwise, but culture, as well as art, and science, as well as any and all intellectual pursuits are strictly reserved for the lordship, and strictly possible for lords alone. That's culture. What parrots do in their trees, what monkeys do in their nation of Africa, what Steve does at Wisconsin is, definitionally, both pop and counterculture.
The fellow continues in this vein, Sociology (intellectual domain) - Racism ("counterculture" equivalent) ; Politics (intellectual domain) - Political Extremism ("counterculture" equivalent) and so following. That his current views (such as, picking randomly, universal franchise) are the most outstanding political extremism from both a theoretical and a historical perspective doth not interest in the slightest - extremism is what people who aren't Steve do! And racism is bad mkay! Fuck a goat for science today!
The whole piece is written in this manner - we find for instance that "some theories are dangerous in themselves". Such as you know, political extremism, which is evidently (but not explicitly - why bother defining terms and what sort of pop-countercultural-science would that be!) defined as "any political practice that ends up hurting". So yes, by this definition political extremism makes perfect sense as an example of why "some theories are dangerous in themselves" : those theories which are dangerous, are therefore dangerous. Such as you know, the political extremism of electing a certainly-male-allegedly-black dude as US President ; or the political extremism of funding goatfuckers on the borders of Pakistan to "fight the Soviets" back in the 70s ; or the political extremism of "Saddam has nucular weapons" or so following. Such useful concept, this. Especially in retrospective.
Then there's of course "quack medical cults", which are bad because "they can lead people to avoid conventional medical treatment". You know the kind - antiepileptics work for depression this decade, unlike anticoagullants that used to work last decade up until the patents expired and so the "science" of the matter was pop-discovered to counter-culturalize a little. God forbid people avoid "conventional" medical treatment, especially when actual researchers have to resort to FOIA requests to be able to get together the data to conclusively show that not a single thing conventional medicine does in the whole field of psychiatry actually works. Have some Lipitor, it's conventionally good for you, and you wouldn't want to engage in Medical Narcissism now wouldja ?!
He also prints a very amusing numeric table, from which we find that Heliocentric Astronomy and Quantum Mechanics clock in at 10`000 : 1 in favour ; whereas "Evolution" and "Quarks" (don't ask me) can barely manage 1`000 : 1. We could therefore say that Heliocentric Astronomy is ten times more likely a correct model of astronomy (pretending to not notice that the Sun is marginal in a rotating arm of a galaxy that's marginal in its cluster that's in turn marginal etcetera) than "Quarks" are a model of ??? ; and in the same manner Quantum Mechanics is ten times as likely as Evolution. Relatedly, I hear that you're ten times as likely to be married as you are to have herpes. No, wait, actually it's the other way around : herpes simplex incidence is about 90% for both hsv-1 and hsv-2, whereas marriage is more of a 30% sort of affairv.
Meanwhile, extraterrestrial intelligence stands at even odds, for unexplained reasons, and Loch Ness / Bigfoot (possibly the same thing ?) stand at 1:100, which is to say a million times less likely than Quantum Heliocentrism (don't ask). In fact, while "extraterrestrial intelligence" is even odds, UFOs are 1:1`000, which allows us a convenient means of evaluating both the size of the universe as well as the difficulties of travel and organising light arrangements. There's five Loch Ness-eses and five Bigfoots for every UFO, yo!
This is about as far as I can make it in the jungle within Mr. Pecuchet's skull. A bon entendeur, salut!
———Not for any proper reason other than laziness - as the species moved on from having to work for food, the shameful half thereof (which usually extends well past 90% in practice) moved on from pretending to be hunting or working the fields to pretending to be thinking (and, most recently, to pretending to be altogether - look throughout the "civilised" world, the most numerous will be alleged existences, inexistent but for the allegation). [↩]But... why couldn't anyone state that reason ?
Oh, right, because if they did they'd be kulaks themselves, right ? You just don't understand how anyone could ever prefer "Artistic Narcissism" to "Fine Arts" and that's all there is to it! [↩]Steve Dutch and a lot of other "intellectuals" of his faux brand of cereals evidently uses it to jack off. Good for them, but I prefer my cereal with cow's milk rather than prostate's milk. [↩]Yes, any group of "common people" which does not have a lord is guilty of paricide, and to be hanged in integrum for this reason alone. Because where is he ? If he's not physically there it must mean they killed him, and the peasant who killed his lord is the foremost and arguably the only true criminal.
In any case the peasant can never escape his lord. Whatever he may do, let him run away, he'll be his lord's runaway ; let him deny, he'll be his lord's insane peasant ; let him kill, he'll just be his lord's murderer and naught else, it is not possible for the peasant to exist outside of lordship, nor for lordship to end. [↩]No I'm not kidding - there's about 50 mn couples living in the US to a population of about three hundred million. [↩]
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Saturday, 24 September, Year 8 d.Tr.
This Nick Cave thing isn't even horrible.
Right ? Right. So Water's Edge :
They take apart their bodies like toys for the local boys because they're always there at the edge of the water. They come from the capitol, these city girls go way down where the stones meet the sea and all you young girls where do you hide down by the water, in the restless tide.
And the local boys hide on the mound and watch reaching for the speech and the word to be heard. And the boys grow hard, hard to be heard. Hard to be heard as they reach for the speech and search for the word on the water's edge. But you grow old and you grow cold. Yea you grow old and you grow cold
They would come in their hordes, these city girls with white strings flowing from their ears as the local boys behind the mound. Think long and hard about the girls from the capitol who dance at the water's edge, shaking their asses and all you young lovers where do you hide ? Down by the water, in the restless tide.
With a bible of tricks they do with their legs the girls reach for the speech and the speech to be heard. To be hard, the local boys teem down the mound and seize the girls from the capitol who shriek at the edge of the water, shriek to speak, and reach for the speech, reach for the speech to be heard. But you grow old and you grow cold, yea you grow old and you grow cold. You grow old.
Their legs wide to the world like bibles open to be speared and taking their bodies apart like toys. They dismantle themselves by the water's edge and reach for the speech and the wide wide world. Ah, God knows our local boys It's the will of love, it's the thrill of love. Ah, but the chill of love is coming on. It's the will of love, it's the thrill of love...
Ah but the chill of love is coming on.
My comments to which are already written, and shall be passed by reference : the love ; and the girls.
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Sunday, 11 December, Year 8 d.Tr.
This is how you fail ; and why ; and wherefore.
Here's a graph of actual wealth distribution in the soi-dissant civilised worldi.
Yeah, it's still technically called a distribution, even if practically speaking it's the screaming embodiment of the opposite concept.
It may or may not obviously be the case, to your eyes. If it isn't, chances are you were befuddled by the workings of what Christos Ballas calls "the aspirational 14%"ii. There's a ready test to evaluate whether this problem affects you : write down ten names of people who are famous and in your opinion earned and deserve their fame ; next to each name write what you expect would be their net worth, as a % of the total money in the worldiii. Then go research the actual values.
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For completeness, here's a graph you probably well know : the usual distribution of human ability, accomplishment and talent measured against an objective scaleiv.
Now suppose for the sake of enlightenment that you are a freshly hired expert, given the task to exert a force upon the second image so as to smush it in the shape seen in the first. How do you go about it ?
Obviously, if you just drop an anvil on that hump the contents will splatter every which way - which is something that happens in society when anvils drop (usually in the shape of foreign invasion, but also significant disease and so forth) : the "lower" become much higher than "their station" and all that.
If instead you try to bulldoze it at an angle the result will likely bear the incline of the angle of attack you chose. How is one to obtain that incredibly debalanced "distribution" through purely external means ?
One isn't, because it can't be done. Absent particular, peculiar and very polarizedv behaviours in the very red substance of the drawings, there's exactly nothing you can do from the outside to end up with that crestfallen, hopeless, pointless and depressing landscape that is the halmark of the second best Korea.
What could those be ? That's where the "civilised" part starts.
You see, whatever people may desire, they only have their own labour to procure it with. Yet while results are always dubious, effort is always painful, and labour certain. It's then extremely tempting to regard value as attaching not to the desired result, but simply to the expenditure of effort and the indignity of labour. It's this sort of nonsense that impels Hussein Bahamas to respond to the capture and rape of some goats (allegedly, US soldiers - but obviously soldiers in name only) through citing numbers - as if spending "more than everyone else combined" somehow improves the sad end result of having more faux soldiers captured than everyone else combined. Hey, the narrative goes, the US Army couldn't possibly be the laughing stock of everyone everywhere, because "we work really hard".
This is why the proposition that you're somehow civilised so readily persuades you - complete absence of any sort of achievement or visible product or mark of that civilisation be damned. So what if maintaining the delusion of your own civilisation requires you never travel anywhere (and if you do carefully sit in specially-designated pens) ? You didn't want to travel anyway, and besides, it's dangerous! So what if your putative civilisation would make for a first in human history, for it was never yet the case civilised people were conversant in just one language ? So what if anything, all sense and any consideration can go to hell, your supposed civilisation is not about what you got, but about what you've sacrificed, isn't it.
And you've sacrificed a lot, haven't you. Never a more thoroughly castratedvi lot has walked the earth, it'd better have been worth it, wouldn't you say ?
This is how you fail ; and why ; and wherefore : that when you decide if to call or fold, the consideration of what cards you hold and how much is in the pot is crucial - but the consideration of how much you put yourself in there is irrelevant.
———No, it's not civilised. Of course it's not civilised, it's anything but civilised - and let alone the civilised.
A circlejerk built around vulgarity enthroned has about as much to do with civilisation as a flock of chromosomally female but otherwise mayo-gendered seniors at Anytown High, USA dressed up in sheets and braying have to do with the three graces. [↩]The workings of this particular opiate for the masses are amply documented in many places under countless names. Consider for one the Hollywood system, consider the systemic implications of that "fake it till you make it" nonsense. Why do you think it's "in bad taste" to discuss your salary, and why especially with your coworkers ? Cui prodest ? [↩]This part is important. "A million dollars" means nothing by itself. [↩]It doesn't usually matter what you're measuring, but it does always matter that you're actually measuring something, as opposed to merely hallucinating numeric values to suit whatever ideological agenda (and no it doesn't matter one whit whether you're aware of it or not). [↩]Ie, not isotropic. [↩]You have "no idea what this means", do you ? It happens. [↩]
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Sunday, 17 January, Year 8 d.Tr.
There has not yet been seen a simple thing, even if we're drowning in simple people.
Motto : i can't fucking believe how inadequate emacs is for playwriting.
suppose i want to see what solarino said. what, do i grep ?
what if i want to see his grammar, regexp ?!
suppose i want to see his rare word usage,
what do i do, perl from a list ?
whenever man sits down to do anything,
man discovers that he is in all likelihood the first man
to have ever sat down to do that one thing.
i dunno wtf all those dudes fixated on virginity
in their women don't get into programming.
fucking virgin field as far as the eye can see,
it could be 1815 for all anyone'd know.
I'm pregnant with wrath, I look like the girl on the right (in a purely intellectual way), but this has nothing to do with anything. And I've been reading a lot, as part of how this particular insanity goes, some of which happened to be apropos to an unrelated discussion (as part of how this particular insanity goes).
There are many sources for the best speech known to the English language, for those few, those happy few, those band of brothers that don't know it by heart (rejoice, lot, I hear your father has a kingdom somewhere that'll be your inheritance). One of them is, of course, the place that's their one true mother, moreso than any other swamp natural reservoir of ignorance gas and self-importance aroma. Here's what it has to say :
Antony: Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Caesar. The noble Brutus
Hath told you Caesar was ambitious:
If it were so, it is a grievous fault;
And grievously hath Caesar answer'd it.
Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest, -
For Brutus is an honrable man;
So are they all, all honrable men, -
Come I to speak in Caesar's funeral.
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honorable man.
Julius Caesar Act III, sc. ii
Simple: (At Caesar's funeral, after Brutus killed Caesar) Friends, Romans, and people from the same country as me, listen to me for a short time. I came here to put the dead Caesar into the earth, not to say good things about him. The bad things that men do live after the men die. The good things they do is frequently put into the earth with their bones. I hope it will happen in that way for Caesar. The good Brutus told you Caesar was ambitious (wanting to be leader, wanting to be better than other people). If he was ambitious, it was a very bad thing for him to be. And Caesar has been punished very much for it. Brutus and all the others have let me be here and speak at Caesar's funeral because Brutus is a good man and all the others are good men. Caesar was my friend. He was a good friend to me and he always did things that were right when he did things to me. But Brutus says he was ambitious, and Brutus is a good man.
Let's do the simple right.i
Friends, Romans, men from my countryii, trade your time for my words. I came to serve the dead, not to praise Caesar. The fish you ate yesterday will still be with you when you die ; the fish you did not eat will not think of you that day. The same is true with Caesar. The goodiii Brutus told you he ate a lot of fish. If he did that, it's bad, and he died badly for it. Here, under the government of Brutus and the other good men - because Brutus is a good man, and so are all the others, all of them - I come to speak at Caesar's death. He was my friend, what he did to me was good and right. But Brutus says he was bad, and Brutus is government.
And so following.
But anyway, to answer a question from the public in more detail : poorly. I've never been this humiliated in my life.
———On the (probably overgenerous) assumption that they're not just idle idiots, but actually mean Ogden's Basic English. [↩]Fancy this dumb shit : Ogden's original (850) as well as extended (2000) word list does NOT include the word "trust" ("government" is in there, of course - and so is copyright!). The notion that someone was at any point in history idiotic enough to imagine a language may exclude the fundamental, conceptual and essential root of any possibility of language, let alone any practical implementation thereof is the best possible illustration of the cold reality that no, you and your ilk are not qualified to speak. Shut up.
The fact that this fundamental breakage was discovered by the interference between Shakespeare's perfect text and my unyielding attention - as I was trying to note "lend me your ears" as "trust me to speak to you a moment", which happens to be fucking correct, by the way - is an excellent indicator of why exactly it is so important to read the classics, in their original form, and preferably in the original language of notation : it will sharpen your blunt instrument so that you too, one day, may possess a tool as fine, and as unyielding, as mine. La asta-ti serveste tie radicalurile. [↩]Check it out, "noble" is not even in the list.
What need have socialists of trust and nobility when they can have government and copyright and the beasts of the field ? To quote directly,
What the World needs most is about 1,000 more dead languages
Nuts. But, as far as socialism goes, mass extermination is an unavoidable necessity (as notably if indirectly pointed out by Poincarre, "an end of human suffering can not be the goal of policy, because it reduces to exterminating humanity"). [↩]
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Wednesday, 20 January, Year 8 d.Tr.
The Wrestler
Motto: Then that Cobain pussy
had to come around and ruin it all.i
The Wrestlerii enjoys the dubious distinction of being the worst filmed film of its year, and possibly decade. I get it, gear is expensiveiii, people to point it even more expensive, gonzo and all that. Nevertheless, most ad-hoc drunken porn produced on campus in the wee hours enjoys better framing, and I say this on the solid if slippery basis of very extensive review.
Mickey Rourke is a terrible actor. It sort-of works in context, washed up has been meathead he can do. The subculture, with the flag and the Nintendo and the "real man" of the 80s hair band glimmers through his cracked mudskin. He tans, just like Trump. I mean exactly, the bed, the goggles, the works. He'd like to make America "great again", an America that only ever existed in his mind and only appeared great for the tightness.
Marisa Tomei is a splendid actress, and still underrated. The director does not understand how to use heriv, which results in unexciting stripping acts and bad hats. But hey - at least she makes Mickey appear almost human height.
The script is certainly the strongest part of this thing, in that it toys with viewer expectations just enough to redeem everything else and leave a thin sliver above water. Will she or won't she, is he or isn't are permanent fixtures as the rolls roll. For an example, riddle me this : an aging wrestler and an aging stripper each have their own kid (opposite sex, as is fitting). The latter is a givenv, but the former's somewhat unexpected. The stripper won't get close to clients, a rule burned into her through constant reinforcement. The daughter wants her daddy, just like any other girl. So who does Randy the Ram end up with, the daughter or the stripper ?
The Wrestler is not the worst way you could spend some time in the mancave.
———Overheard in my mancave :
- How did Cobain ruin it anyway? It shoulda been...Britney Spears.
- Nah nah, that's too late. They were saying the 90s ruined the hair bands, she's too late. He's probably just the most recognizable, what were they going to do, "Oh that Michael Stipe ruined everything," "Who's that?!".
- The one before her then, who was that?
- I dunno, still too late though, there weren't any of them in the 90s.
- No, there was another one, in between N'Sync and
- That's already too late. That's like '98.
- So when was Backstreet Boys?
- Same time.
- These weren't simultaneous though.
- Maybe a coupla years apart, same thing. I dunno. Do you mean Christina Aguilera?
- Yeah.
- Yeah, too late.
- So they got it? There's nobody else that works? Kenny Rodgers. How about that. Kenny fucking Rogers ruined it.
- Wasn't he around in like the 60s?
- Yeah. MC Hammer! He ruined it!
- It was supposed to be rock though. They ruined the 80s hair bands is the idea.
- What did they have?
- I dunno, stupid hair.
- What does it look like?
- Like him.
- So nobody else?
- I guess. Maybe like Robert Smith or something, but I don't think enough people'd know who that is.
- Those Nine Inch Nails idiots.
- Again though, not enough people'd know what that is. And not really rock-y enough.
- Yeah. Yoko Ono.
- She's from like 1880s
- Yeah but they heard about her in the 1980s.
- Nobody heard of her outside of Greenwich Village.
- Hm. That stupid bitch Baez dun it, how about that. Oh, I know! Bon Jovi!
- Oh, totally.
- What'd he do though.
- You know, he turned arena rock into this touchy-feely--
- For women!
- Yeah, to appeal to women whiny stuff. And then he got a spot on Sex and the City.
- He did?
- Yep.
- That's it then.
[↩]2008, by Darren Aronofsky, with Marisa Tomei, Mickey Rourke. [↩]Aronofsky & co were so poor Mickey Rourke got paid 100k in a brown paper bag, and Axl Rose actually donated some tracks.
Which perhaps explains how come Kurt Cobain gets to take the blame for what's clearly a Bon Jovi deed.
You know, Bon Jovi, the band where Axl Rose was lead drummer ? [↩]For instance : the title character, Robin Ramsinsky is billed as Randy the Ram (but otherwise a transparent Randy Savage in a Hulk Hogan wig). The Ram, geddit ? He even drives around a Dodge Ram. On the other hand the thing Marisa Tomei does best is bounce about in giddy excitement. But she never gets to do any. [↩]Stripping is grueling. I doubt there's anything nearly as taxing available on the job market. Without motherhood to incentivize and center, a woman has very slim chances of sticking with it, sticking with the schedule, sticking with the hand stuck up her ass, sticking with the sweat and the stick of it all hour after hour after shot after hour. College sluts fill amateur nights, but an old stripper is a mother nine cases out of ten. [↩]
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Tuesday, 25 October, Year 8 d.Tr.
The woman's fault
Motto: This won't be pretty.
There's a century old theoryi about the causative agent of schizophrenia (a typically male disease) pinning down the mother. We won't go into a discussion of that (other than to say that the current DSM crowd doesn't credit itii) chiefly because we don't believe you're in a position to follow. Instead, let's stick to the more readily accessible outcroppings on the tall rockface of truth and try to find an easier path.
Ordinary Peopleiii is the exact story of this problem, as it was encountered throughout the 80s.iv The parties are :
a young man, at that age when he should be fucking twice a day, five different cuntsv each week. He is deeply perturbed, specifically by the fact that he is NOT fucking twice a day, five different cunts a week - and by nothing elsevi. All sorts of people aim to "help" him, for just as long as "helping" mistranslates with "helping him delude himself that he should try and cope with this patently insane situation, rather than buldgeon everything in sight until either a) the environment is reduced to a fine dust, b) he dies, or c) the requisite cunts are produced".
the young man's father, a smart fellow who has bought hook line and sinker into the theory that satisfying the desires of women is more important than satisfying the needs of men. This used to be called the "chivalric ideal", back when it lived in Europe, and it was a joke. Always played for laughs, part of the large arsenal of tropes of what you don't recognize anymore as comedia [del arte] (even though you're swimming in it), this nonsense was taken literally by the "grandtouring", humourless, culture-deprived Brits. Such is the fate of all barbarians visiting the center of the world - they go to Byzantium and end up with the strange idea that the Hebrew word for young woman literally translates as the Greek word for virgin (she was a maiden, ok ?). Literalism is always and everywhere the fate of children and children-alikes.
the young man's mother, an unremarkable urchin which has imported from her stupid mothervii a whole set of behaviours, between the merely bizarre and the outright psychotic, intended to cope with the insane situation where she's to be in control of things that she has no business ever touching the control rods of.
The dialogue flows as you'd expect :
Calvin? What's the matter?
This will sound strange. What I'm going to say will sound strange.
What happened? Come inside.viii
Could we talk about Buck's funeral?ix
What?
It'll seem trivial. But it's on my mind. I'd like to talk about it. When I was getting dressed for Buck's funeral...
What could getting dressed for Buck's funeral have to do with anything?x
I was wearing a blue shirt. You said. "Wear a white shirt and other shoes." It was nothing. But it seemed to stay with me. What difference did it make what I wore to Buck's funeral?xi
Hear me out. Beth!
No one would listen to that.xii
I just want to talk about it.
Why do you want to remind me?
Because I've wondered what it mattered what I wore. I was crazy that day. We were going to our son's funeral. You were worried about what I wore on my feet. It sticks with me... and I wanted to tell you about it.xiii
It's all right.
The closing is telling ("we would've been all right if there hadn't been any mess"), which is of course how delusion always goes - the dotcom bubble would also have been alright, and the deindustrialisation of the United States in favour of a "service economy" would also have been alright. All idiocy ever "would have been alright". If only...
In the end : it's not a woman's fault that she can't love anything but men ; it's not her fault if men decide to instead be boys, and pretend like their inescapable duty to select the offspring (which yes, means killing some children) may be abstracted away under layers of verbiage. It is however her fault if she admits to live in such insane arrangements, and it is doubly her fault if she procreates therein.
The woman's fault is having children with the sort of imbecile her stupid mother would approve of - which is to say any man that is not her master. The woman's fault is raising those unfortunate children to resemble their insane father - which is to say any man who doesn't keep the womenxiv as slavesxv. The woman's fault is, basically, deviating from that ancient role.
Yet in a world that has succumbed almost completely to neoteny, the woman's fault is rapidly approaching "even existing at all".
Which is all for the better, I suppose - the 80s ended, and the problems therein depicted and here discussed exist no longer. In their old stead we find today the problems of little girls, unlikely by any measure to ever mature into women.
None of this can have a practical resolution, which is both sufficient and necessary to show the western world must end. But that's ok - not like there's a DSM for it! We can go to hell in a handbasket agreeing with each other that it'd have been okay, if only!
If only the barbarians didn't come, if only the army didn't get routed, if only law and order were maintained, if only, if only.
If only.
———I don't mean The schizogenic mother, NUFFIELD EJ 1954, that a typically USian "hai c-am furat un negativ"* aka restatement with pretension to ownership of things overheard but not understood, partly because not speaking any languages, partly because not part of any cultures.
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* See also the discussion of Smith, the Mormon prophet. [↩]They equally don't like its later equivalent, blaming the woman for autism. Somehow the recurrence however doesn't give anyone pause - the proponents think themselves original, the opponents imagine they are fighting the good fight opposing - all marionettes forever happy without considering the inconceivable coil or spring. Would there be any need to ? [↩]1980, by Robert Redford, with Donald Sutherland, Mary Tyler Moore and Elizabeth McGovern. [↩]The Graduate is the exact equivalent, covering the 70s. Notable differences are that "the woman" here, the wife of a friend of the kid's parents, takes it upon her to expiate the (plainly obvious to her) fault of womanhood, through the normal avenue - sexual submission ; that the thusly purified young man "mistreats" the woman's daughter, in the sense of treating her exactly adequately, if with the somewhat bumbling hand of the young male. The girl herself however perceives said treatment as improper, for no reason in particular other than the fundamental reason, namely that this is what it means to be a woman : everything seems indesirable until you try it the first time. Which is why the correct cure to female virginity is rape, not coddling, and so on and so forth - but let's not get carried away. [↩]No, I don't mean "women". Nobody cares, get over yourself, the attachment is happenstance of no further consequence. [↩]The film tries to sell the ridiculous theory that the actual problem would be the honorable death of his brother, fallen in the line of duty fighting the elements. This is exactly the ridiculous sort of claptrap a capon would be crowing all day long. [↩]The term of art for this would be stramula. It comes from a seminal Romanian-language piece on the topic (in which language mula is yet another derogatory term for a stupid woman, not that there's any shortage of these ; whereas stra- is a prefix indicating primacy on the decendency line, sort of like grand in grandfather). [↩]Why is the woman producing imperative statements towards the man ? [↩]Why is the man asking for permission ? [↩]Why is the woman pretending like she's setting the agenda for this, or any other, meeting ? [↩]The answer, obvious but nevertheless not provided, is that the woman is trying to provide for the future through tightly controlling the present.
But why is she trying to provide for the future ?
Because she lives in a bizarro world where the desires of women (ie, quite specifically, that their offspring will survive irrespective of quality) stand above the needs of men (ie, quite specifically again, that woman's offspring only survives if it meets a minimum bar of humanity).
It's not a matter of whether this is an acceptable trade-off, or whether it costs too much or any of that. No system predicated on this nonsense can ever stand no matter what happens. Even if every single man agrees to be Calvin, and be told by some urchin what to wear to his son's funeral, the system still can not stand, for it is rank nonsense through and through. [↩]And of course socialism shows up, the ready ally of women determined to stay stupid. [↩]This is the important part. He... wanted to tell her about it.
Not do anything about it. [↩]Do note the plural. [↩]Which specifically, and necessarily means - without a say in measuring the world. [↩]
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Tuesday, 16 February, Year 8 d.Tr.
The Woman in the Window
Motto: 100% disagree that anything
could be more enjoyable when "slave".
~funkenstein_
Since we're doing zealotryi, The Woman in the Windowii is as good an example as any.
The story goes, that a respectable professor is first warned about things. `Tis worth a quote :
"Don't talk like that. Men of our years have no business playing around with any adventure that they can avoid. We're like athletes who are out of condition. We can't handle that sort of thing anymore."
"Life ends at 40?"
"In the district attorney's office, we see what happens to middle-aged men who try to act like colts. And I'm not joking when I tell you that I've seen genuine, actual tragedy issuing directly out of pure carelessness, out of the merest trifles. Casual impulse, an idle flirtation, one drink too many."
You understand. Then he is served the actual Confirmatio, made to order. So : the woman from the painting they all admired comes to lifeiii, and she invites him for a drink, and they end up at her place where she goes about topless like it's nothing, statuesque bust covered in rather plain gauze. But then!!! a dude comes in, and goes to kill our hero, who, underneath the sudden, unexpected assailant, reaches out. And the womaniv puts a scissor in his hand, and he "kills" the 200 lb dude. Somehow, this can happen. You try it sometime, I've had to kill people with actual proper fucking blades and it's a spot of fucking work, not a moment's folly in any case. And especially not if they're primed. Try this for your own amusement : go boar hunting, then when the boar's facing you in position hit it in the knee so it feels the pain, and then shoot at its chest - you know, that place where one bullet (of the 1/8 lb sort they use for the purpose, but still) puts him down. See how five rounds may roundly not suffice, and the beast's still fucking charging, with the extra lead just adding to its mass. But anyway.
Once they have the corpse, the hero decides to try and cover up the murder. The woman's ever compliant, she will help. She does, as much as possible. She's a lovely, truly, and I truthfully say I've no problem killing some douche and covering it up to end up with her, there's four billion douches perambulating and doubtfully a million like her, so anything in the single digits is an utter steal. For some reason the film has the guy decide to never meet her again, which is the height of inexplicable idiocy - Bennett's character is exactly what you dump the wife for.
And then there's this situation where the criminology professor makes a shocking bevvy of incredible mistakes, such as taking a toll bridge with a corpse in the car, and such as cutting himself up over some barbed wire as he tries to dump the body and thus NOT aborting and looking for a new spot, but instead carrying on. Wtf difference does it matter, right, some fiber, some blood... what's this criminology thing again, where you don't drive your fucking car in the mud ? Pshaw.v
Then his friends, which include the DA in charge of the homicide, give him a blow by blow of all the ample evidence they havevi, and yet fail to pick him up. They just don't believe it's him, what. But then! There's a blackmailer! And the woman handles him superbly, except at the end she makes the tiniest of mistakes being too pushy. And then he decides to kill himself. The end.
Except not really! Because impossible match cut to he's dreamed it all! And his dream "scares him straight" in the sense that next a woman asks him for a light he runs away like a twelve year old that's grown up on a farm in solitary confinement. Puritan victory > 9`000, adult male behaving like a retarded child for the "good of society" and "everyone involved".
Ridiculous as all propaganda ever is, this film is worth watching for the skillful work of the actors, and for the unintentional self-parody that all propaganda ever is.
———Consider this :
So we understand each other : John is some poor and kinda stupid kid from some ghetto in some indistinct townlet. One day, Mircea the Bad comes there on whatever business, sits down in the bar with his two bitches curled up at his feet and drinks a rum or something. The girls from the ghetto, for love of their country (in our example, that sad ghetto) pick John up forcibly, sit him down at the table next to mine and curl at his feet, just like the other two. They're definitely not slavegirls, they have neither the training nor the skills nor in the end the needs or structure of that relationship, and no marble columns, no gardens where water sprinkles among the cypress nor artesian fountains springing forth marzipan await them at home, but instead the nude concrete walls, the [low class mass produced kitsch wallhanging stuff], the bedbug infested pressed shitboard nightstand. But indifferent to all these points, they play a role to support a theory : the theory that here too, in the assghetto of shit "we got fine stuff", and a John who, even if only four letters long, is still quite as great as any Mircea come from afar.
Well, that's patriotism, the girls in this example show "love of their ghetto" and that's the thing upon which socialist Romania was built, if you're curious - a structure otherwise borrowed from Carlist Romania. Totul pentru patrie!
What is the notion that "Los Malvinas fueron, son y serian Argentinas", notwithstanding that they actually belonged to Spain, not to Argentina, and they were disputed by England back then, also ? (To be specific, if you're curious, the Falklands were French 1764-1767 and British 1765 - 1770 and Spanish 1767 - 1811 and nobody's (literally!) 1811-1829, and US 1831-1832, and nobody's again briefly in 1832, and then British and Argentine in 1833 and then nobody's 1833-1834 and then British for a century and more between 1834 - 1982, and then Argentine briefly for a summer in '82 and British hence. So... yeah, totally.)
What is the notion that "Argentina no es un pais pobre" , or for that matter that the money to pay for all the cars sitting in traffic in the port city of a continent-sized soy farm comes from "el trabajo", as a cab driver stuck in that selfsame traffic dutifully explained for my benefit ?
What's the notion that your mother isn't a whore, that your father isn't a drunk, that Francis Bacon wasn't a common fraudster, that love won't be betrayed, that you will not die, that when you die you won't be alone, pick and choose as you will, the list is endless. An endless list of fraud, more or less pious, that makes the unbearable misery of life tolerable.
That's zealotry : belief, impudent as Impudence itself, daring to go on the basis of absent experience against he who speaks from round experience. "Yes, there's A and there's B, and I only ever saw A, and I therefore know it's above B", says the zealot, generally to the man of wider experience and more wisdom, who's seen both, who's lived in both, who knows both.
And why not ? If people didn't think their town is better than the town over there they'd have to move, no ? That takes money, and time and in a word effort, and the nature of life is being lazy - or in proper terms, conserving resources.
Yet there's a difference between the sensible "lest I see proof of better I'm not going anywhere" and the zealot's own dispensation of any such scruple. Not that the sensible path actually works all too well - for one thing, explaining the town to the peasant or the sea to the oak is above what Literature yet achieved.
So is your mother a whore ? And if she were, how'd you know ? [↩]1944, by Fritz Lang, with Edward G. Robinson and Joan Bennett. [↩]Ding ding, hamhanded Aesop alert : even "noble" causes such as an aesthetic appreciation can lead to perdition!!1 [↩]Ding ding, hamhanded Aesop alert : Eve!!1 [↩]Ding ding, hamhanded Aesop alert : You see, even a criminology professor couldn't possibly escape the Puritan's notions of "world must work this way!!11". Because the world was given to the Puritan derp as a personal gift, what! Review the Constantine donation. What, fraud ? Pshaw! [↩]It's all checks, no leads! [↩]
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Tuesday, 24 May, Year 8 d.Tr.
The unhappy new years, or look at the difference a decade makes!
Let's lead with the old one :
Bisexual, Woman, 31, Single, 173cm, Curvy. Alberta, CA.
Her poti sa zici hi, nu musc ;)i
You salut :) cum ie prin alberta ?
Her Greetings and how are you? Alberta este foarte friguroasa. Basically the North Pole.
You aha. noa, pai hai pina-n ba. e ca-n sera aici.
Her Oh I wish. Lucky boy. My romo blood wasn't made for this much winter.
You haha. luck ain't nothing to do with it! skill all the way.
Her ok, you're skillful to live in such a hot climate. my skills are winter based ;)
You what, oil drilling ?
Her Investment banking but all our clients are o&g as you can imagine.
You hehehe. you wanna google me ?
Her why? are you a local celebrity?
You well not exactly local not exactly celebrity.
Her color me impressed. so why okc?ii
You eh why not. but as you can see... it's not winter based :Diii
Her oh my friend, the internet trolls hate you. how do you sleep at night? lolol
You http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/
Friday, 01 January, Year 8 d.Tr.
The two cent class
We're lost, adrift a sea of postmodernism, which means terminology is not particularly useful, nor a particularly trustworthy basis for any serious attempt at thought.i Nevertheless, serious thought can not be dispensed withii, and so here we are, trying to make actual words out of the shit in everyone's mouth and proceed with that.
The female idiocyiii, ascendant after the horrors of the greatest war humanity ever sawiv resulted in the welfare state, a form of collective that squandered the great wealth and power accumulated in the West over many countless generations of eminently successful pillage abroad in a very brief half century. The result of this societal failure of epic proportions is the two cent class.
They are now young and not so young adults, born from the sixties to the nineties, fundamentally incapable of life. The boys can't kill ; the girls can't fuckv, everything else flows from there. They can't, for instance, learn. Absent Alexander's solution and Alexander's tools, they're stuck forever following the intricacies of the Gordian knot, captive in its hallucinated complexity much as the enemy had intended.vi
They can't do, and they can't think, so obviously nothing productive can come out of their hands. They can't be carpenters, it'd be a total waste of their hallucinated "potential". Yeah, it was good enough for Jesus, but who the fuck is he! They're better than that! They can't be modest, humble housewives, it'd be "selling out", giving up on a future greatness they don't actually want but are stuck waiting for, preparing for, endlessly.
They can't cut your beard or cut your grass, unless they do it "ironically" which is to say poorly, unless they do it for too much money, which means you'll be much better off hiring someone who isn't them. A poor unfortunate foreigner, who's then stuck moving into the insanity, and trying his best to resist the slow grinding down of his own sanity by the slow, endless daily interaction with the inmates. He might survive it, somewhat, in purpose built ethnic enclaves. His children definitely won't.
Pretty much the only thing they can do is - give their opinion. Which is of course worthless, the thoughts of they who can't do anything and don't do anything have exactly the value of nothing, you might as well throw ants on a paper and ocr the resulting mess.
But it's also cheap! Two cents! Two cents a dance! They'll pour your soul into it ; they'll fall in love with you. Two cents. Don't you want their two cents ? Why not, are you some sort of sociopath, one of those that "focus more on abstract concepts rather than the people themselves" ???
The obvious problem of course is that computers do it cheaper. Even without that, the notion that somehow a large group of humans with no practical ability and no active inclination could somehow feed themselves through "intellectual property", which is to say through telling what "they think" to the people who are actually doing things is ridiculous on its face. Yes, retirement historically means that the respected patriarch of a clan, too weak to actually do, is still sought for his experience by his offspring, to advise and discern. But the key element here is the patriarch, the descendency. Nobody is asking the bum in the street what he thinks on any topic, because nobody cares, which is why he's the bum.
You may ask your grandfather for an opinion on what to do with your misbehaving wife, if you respect his own handling of a misbehaving woman ; how to handle a dispute, if you admire his survival in warlike times ; how to find peace if you're impressed by his peaceful mastery of things that horrify you to the brink of nightmare. But the unsolicited, definitionally meaningless "advice" of perfect strangers ?! Who cares! What difference could it possibly make, what importance could it possibly carry!vii
Yet that's all they have to offer. A billion people stuck in a dream, incapable to act, expecting to live today, and to continue living tomorrow, on the cash value of their opinions of things. Consumers that expect to be paid for the "intellectual value of their choices" enough so as to cover the grocery bill.viii Vocal self-appointed minorities expecting, to the last one, to pay their rent and retirement out of the proceeds of being hired by the majority to share their personal judgements of it. A whole class of loud idlers flattering themselves as to the literary value of their "memoirs" - which someone else should writeix.
The two cent class. If only it rained lye they could make millions of dollars' worth of soap.
———For one end of this, see the progre. For the numerous other ends, look around. What is, for instance, "branding" ie the rape of words, if not an abandonment of the purpose of meaning ?
What is the encyclopedia of retards, who would take such nonsense seriously, and why would they ? Why is such a thing as "trolling" even possible, if not because of the detachment between cognition and verbiage ? That space floods with the bilge of emotion and "empathy" and "caring" and "awareness", which can then be trivially directed - as the marketeer drives them to acquire crap the troll drives them to baw incontrollably. They're not even distinguishable in any sense, these two!
For very little expense one can amuse himself by observing the ignorant use the word "ignorance" to discuss the very exploitation of their ignorant laziness - by all accounts monumentally if unintentionally amusing, at least the first few million passes. Picture an obese mongoloid smearing his excrement on his diet plan, calling the result food and proceeding to eat the lot - on call, behind glass, whenever you want. This is the Western world in its substance, and in this context terrorism is neither "incomprehensible" nor "reprehensible" nor anything else than a different packaging of the same unintentional comedy. There's nothing "inhuman" about butchering the horde of inhumans - what else would you do of them ?
No, not "with", there is no "with", you can't do something with one of the obese mongoloids, and properly speaking there can't even be "one of". They all wear t-shirts, which in identical font proclaim each "individual"'s "unicity", as a substitute for individuals and unicity. (You may think it's spelled "uniqueness", but no : Unicity International is an "American" "international" multi-level marketing company, headquartered in Orem, Ohio. I mean Utah. It could buy Russia. You don't think it could buy Russia ?)
Incidentally but much more interestingly : did you know http://trilema.com/string autocompletes ? For instance http://trilema.com/the-pro takes you to http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-claims/ whereas http://trilema.com/the-prog takes you to the article I actually wanted, above. If there's no match the return is a random article. Pretty nifty way of doing things, wouldn't you say ? [↩]For a certain class of people, which is strictly speaking us. Yes, "us" of "us versus them" fame. That "us". [↩]"War is bad mmkay" or if you prefer "nothing can justify the taking of a life [because some woman carried that shithead to term and this matters now]" or else "violence is never the answer" or "if you ever hit a girl in my class again I'm going to do sexual things to you [ever seen Joe the King btw ?]" or however you'd wish to state the wormy, slimy proposition that spawning and spawning alone is what matters.
Which yes, is fundamentally why they're obese : function without selection. [↩]But not because anyone was peculiarly impressed with the horrors per se. Idle pretense and pious fraud to the contrary notwithstanding, ~nobody thought the concentration camps looked so bad as to be discouraged from making more of the same.
On the contrary, they looked great - what's better than a few million losers starving to death under the whip ? Flip through the history of the war in Vietnam one day you're bored, people traded captured women and ear necklaces with the easy disinterest of everyday commerce - not that there's any shortage of examples, in fact I'm only entertaining the ridiculous official narrative for comedic value, on its own merits it holds exactly no water. Who doesn't love the smell of crematoria in the morning ? Awww, what, you thought they preferred your obnoxious chatter and the insufferable whines of your offspring ? Tsk tsk.
No, the overstated concern was that the weapons had advanced so far their use was no longer meaningful, and so a little time was needed to work around the difficulty. By and large we're there now, and the festivities of life on Earth - actual, as opposed to pretend, fake, female surrogate - can gleefully resume. And so they are. [↩]Not in the sense of what you call "having sex". In the sense of what you call "being raped".
Yes, selected individuals can be trained back into humanity. This does nothing for you, there's like what - a dozen trainers capable of the feat in the entire world ? They're not going to work for you, they're going to work for themselves. They are. [↩]One of the most amusing instances of this I've seen to date is this kid who's been trying to play Eulora for at least two months now. He simply... can't. Why can't he ? Here :
DianaComan but really DicePower, it would save you a lot of effort if you actually studied a bit whatever it is you want to use - probably eclipse in this case
DicePower I know, but I'm not even sure whether I'm going to end up on Windows or Linux yet. It feels pretty bad to devote a lot of time to it and not end up using it :P Plus I feel like I'm at the "almost there" point now. Got all the compiling stuff done on both Linux and Windows.
DianaComan you mean worse than devoting a lot of time to getting stuck because you don't really know what you are doing there ?
mircea_popescu eh he just wants it to work.
DicePower You're probably right, I'm just hoping stuff works, but we'll see how it goes and I'll definitely keep the advice in mind. I want to start the game lol
DianaComan oh, starting the game would be something indeed
mircea_popescu i still think it's fucking incredible that a) the win binaries that work for everyone didn't work for him and then b) the linux process that works for everyone didn't work foir him all the while c) he could actually somehow run the game but all he wanted to do is cycle the acct creation. teh story doesn't seem to come together to anything, so...
DianaComan but he hasn't tried the win binaries! yeah actually, I don't get this: DicePower HOW did you get previously to create character etc? did that work and now it stopped working or what?
DicePower I have tried the win binaries. Just on a different machine than the one I'm compiling on.
DianaComan uhm, so if you want to start the game then ...just go to that machine and start it?
DicePower I don't want to start the game without consideration to my character's stat distribution.
DianaComan mk
DicePower That's like playing competitive Pokemon with random IVs or something :P
DianaComan I seriously doubt eulora is similar to pokemon but hey
DicePower In the sense that when one stats is lower, one of the others is higher, and although there is no single "best" stat distribution, no doubt some stat distributions are more viable than others. Some stat distributions won't be a "best response" to any in game activity, so to speak.
DianaComan I doubt that
hanbot DicePower I highly doubt it'll ever be possible to control any of that.
DianaComan and that's the thing: HOW are you exactly optimizing some stats for something that you have no idea about? it's like optimizing your persona for martian sex or something
mircea_popescu in principle!
DicePower You think that if there are 10 stats each of which can hold values of 0-9, and the total is always 50, that all stat distributions are equal in utility?
mircea_popescu no, she thinks you have no way to create a utility function, being wholly innocent of the matter.
hanbot> ^
DicePower Well, sorta, it's true that not everything will be able to be tested, unfortunately.
mircea_popescu o hey, 23k this time!
DicePower But some stuff can be tested.
mircea_popescu actually to be precise, ( (11024 + 7463 + 5222) * 2.79 + (7626+7255) * 2.8)*58 = 6253264.78
DicePower My biggest worry at this point is the difficulty on the "philosophical" end lol. Part of it is "how do you know how the stat distribution works given all the missing data," but the other part is "how do you know what stat distribution you want?"
DianaComan 6mn mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu whereas the bundles were 2*4675169 and i guess the claims themselves 2-3mn each ? so like 40% ish returns i guess.
DicePower For example, survivability seems like it will be very important to me when death becomes permanent. But how do you optimize a stat distribution for survivability?
DianaComan oh, total? what is that exactly mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu DianaComan two sb remarks. and my output dropped 1 unit.
DicePower At face value, you would want high Health, and other similar numbers.
DianaComan first off DicePower : do you know at least WHAT you want to optimise for?
DicePower That's the problem.
DianaComan and the solution to it is to PLAY with whatever stats you get, lol
DicePower A character with high Health, etc. will no doubt have its best synergy with high combat stats.
mircea_popescu the solution to not wanting to play can't possibly be to play.
DicePower But if you optimize your character for combat, did you really increase your survivability chances overall? Maybe not. Isn't playing randomly with "whatever you get" pretty much the definition of unskillful play in every video game where skillful choice is meaningful?
mircea_popescu choice is not yet meaningful to you. it can only be meaningful after experience, not before.
DianaComan ^^^
DianaComan to be fair, eulora might be rather unique in this
DicePower In my mind, I'm comparing it to going to a Magic the Gathering tournament with a completely random deck, and saying "I'll play my best with this deck."
mircea_popescu this is a spurious comparison. you have no idea what similarities would exist between random boring game and eulora.
DicePower Lack of experience is indeed a problem in choosing a stat distribution. It would be a lot better if people streamed Eulora, and you could get a feel for it beforehand.
mircea_popescu the other problem being thaty you can't choose anyway. so yeah, meaninglessness of impossibility is the problem.
DicePower You can choose the numbers you can see. By natural selection
mircea_popescu well, strictly speaking, it'd maybe be better if you didn't bother with things you don't care about ? you dun wanna play it, why would you care.
DianaComan uhm, apparently DicePower wanted experience in compiling anyway, since otherwise he would have gotten a month of play experience by now, no?
DicePower Hehe, why think I don't want to play it? :P
DianaComan DicePower, there is actually danielpbarron 's youtube channel, have you checked that out?
mircea_popescu oh danielpbarron is leaking his sikritz ?
DicePower Yes, I saw a few of his vids. But yeah, there are a lot of problems in trying to find the optimal stat distribution. Luckily all that's needed to justify trying is "better than random" results, eh?
DianaComan ftr DicePower the trouble in a nutshell is that in eulora feelings are quite worthless, sentiments only slightly more valuable and otherwise what really matters is not exactly the video of the thing.
mircea_popescu "DicePower> But yeah, there are a lot of problems in trying to find the optimal distribution of angels on imaginary pins. chiefly that angels have no substance and imaginary pins only exist in our own heads."
DianaComan well, if you are into the business of justifying things, I guess pretty much anything will do anyway
DicePower Well, justified in the sense that you likely to get a better result.
mircea_popescu there is no "better".
DicePower So you think every possible stat distribution has exactly equal utility in terms of generating skill/profit/insert Eulora goal here?
mircea_popescu i do not think. i know, as a factual matter, that players can't currently answer very simple questions such as "is it better to keep 3 basic hoes or make an imp hoe ?" as seen in trilema.com/eulora-auctions-and-bilbulations/ and numerous other places/discussions on the topic of rational choice in eulora.
DianaComan there is no better and then anyway, what you are saying is that if you ask your 2yo to choose a car, it's really quite likely that he'll choose a "better" one than if you just pick one at random from the producer's offer.
DicePower Is it really that bad
DianaComan and then the 2yo is to drive the car, so the car's stats will make even MORE of a difference. I suppose one can say it will make a difference as in will it be a pink mess of metal crashed into the tree or a blue mess of metal crashed into same poor tree
mircea_popescu basic matters such as "is it better to level your skills or not" are constantly debated, and there's no actual resolution to the debate, a year later.
DicePower Well that's because "better" is subjective, but that doesn't mean a person can't figure out the answer for themselves based on their goals, right?
DianaComan sure, the 2 yo has goals, just...do you think they are relevant for the choice of car?
DicePower Just how deep is this game that it fails every analogy or comparison to all other games?
DianaComan quite a few degrees of magnitude deeper than what is needed to fail that anyway
DicePower I mean, so far, there's like, exploring and crafting, right? And each have a few subcategories.
DianaComan ahaha
mircea_popescu no, not because "better is subjective". better in the sense of "more money" is not subjective, which is why i picked those examples. still doesn't help anything. aaand my ppb is coming out a round 299
DianaComan ooo, well done. I got 2 snails 500q out of a cs small, ugh
mircea_popescu heh. how many to the bod, a dozen or two?
DianaComan ahahah, you mean 33? close to three dozens, lol
DicePower Okay, so what you're saying is that people just haven't figured out the most profitable route in the game because the loot distribution algorithm is complex and unknown (or other complex/unknown variables), so you can't answer questions like whether one item is more profitable than another.
DianaComan DicePower, there is a lot of hidden complexity - everything is basically interrelated for one tiny thing. there isn't a fixed "most profitable route"
DicePower I believe that. Profitable circumstances are no doubt temporary in duration
mircea_popescu DicePower i'm saying people've figured out just about ~nothing.
DicePower So the average "experienced" player would still be the 2 year old if you got to manually select your own stat distribution?
DianaComan quite. I'm that 2 yo if I am to select the stat distribution. I wouldn't be able to offer someone a full configuration as "best" or even "better" with solid reasons basically
mircea_popescu which ironically makes his time spent fucking around with the entryway not that much of a loss. lol.
DicePower What about "general principles" deductible from game theory, like characters that are really good at one thing are generally better than characters that are all around average?
DianaComan oh, the loss is in game-time which is by now about the only part on which there seems to be some agreement as the most valuable thing one has. you know mircea_popescu I can't quite remember last time when there was someone offline from the hardcore group basically, lol
mircea_popescu DicePower it's not even clear who are the best characters at any arbitrary task.
DicePower Well, game theory wise, I would hypothesize that characters with very high number in some stats and very low numbers in other stats would do better on average than characters with even numbers in all stats. I think that would apply unless the game has been reverse engineered to prevent such a thing.
mircea_popescu this hypothesizing has as much basis in reality as the hypotesizing that some characters have a blue hat. it is, given that hats exists and blue is a color, somewhat more likely than 0.
DicePower Well, game theory makes solid predictions unless a game has been designed to avoid the outcome of the predictions. Annnyhow, one really interesting thing I noticed on Eclipse is that I imported the entire root folder, whereas on MSVS I opened only a single solution /mk/msvs10/wkspstypical.sln with a bunch of projects. Is the general process on Eclipse completely different, in that I'm going to be building and running the entire Eulora folder, or am I going to be looking for a solution to build and run?
mircea_popescu game theory is like pick-up artistry. makes solid predictions for a cultural and fashion space.
DicePower mircea_popescu: I never understand 47.9% of the things you say :P Hmm, maybe it's more like 17.9%, but I know I got the 7.9% part right.
This is also the reason he can't have children, leave "the country", or win a war - with ISIS or anyone else. There is a very strictly delineated difference between intelligence, as a tool of will, and anxiety, an idle rumination, perpetually preparatory but whose fundamental function is to insure against, to keep at bay the nominal purpose of the preparation.
The transition from one to the other is not avoidable in a society of women. College may well start as preparation for work, in a world of men. Once the voice of women is heard, college becomes the very avoidance of work, what you do so you don't have to go work.
Yet somehow the fact that all pleasure and all call of life has been excised from this world where adulthood is not anticipated but feared is noticed by no-one, and the responsibility of nobody. It "so happened" that everyone is behaving like a prepubescent girly. God's will uh I mean, science's necessary result. Probably due to "global warming", which is totally a thing - haven't you seen the golf club pattern ?! (You know, the fraudulent "smoking gun" that meanwhile completely disappeared.)
Yet the same decay rots all other aspects of life in the same way. Talking to a girl may be what you do in preparation of fucking her, in a world of men, so she can fixate her interior spinner device (that she unwarrantedly calls "her mind" and for no good reason pretends to be giving her a personality, an individual personality no less!) on something other than the unyielding, indiscutable inevitability of penis parting her girly bits. Talking to a girl however becomes something to forever prepare for, once the voice of women is heard. That it consequently never actually gets done anymore is to be lampshaded at best, but certainly nobody and nothing can possibly be responsible! In fact, the very notion of responsibility must be hijacked into defending the insanity - it's probably the patriarchy's fault, doublespoken as "pornography" or something. Whatever you got. [↩]Yes, yes, the socialistoid "all people are equal so therefore it matters!"
The problem with this isn't merely that there is no such thing as "people" outside the WoT, but that it actually only serves the needs of the socialist dream! Crediting this nonsense does exactly nothing to serve you, it doesn't help you in any way, it's simply a tax - something you must do with your own time and resources in order for something else to continue to exist. A something else that is also incapable of doing anything for you, or strictly speaking to you. So why would you ?
"The opposite of talking is not listening - it's waiting for your turn" describes exactly this situation, a couple of decades ago. So low is the value of the drivel pompously referred to as "opinion" that the only way to get anyone to sit put while you vomit it is to promise to do the same while they vomit theirs. And you're going to somehow trade all this vomit for fresh food ? Really ?! [↩]Or if you prefer, Greeks that explain how it takes two to create a debt, and it's Germany's fault for sending them all the stuff they "bought". [↩]What you probably don't understand is that the NSA "spying on private citizens" is as important for the delusional, fictitious "economy" of the United States as the "liquidity injections" are. And it'd better be illegal, too. Very, very illegal.
Only then will it be "true" (in the persuasive-meaningless sense of the term) that totally, the meaningless, tedious triviality that comprises the life of every Susan, Benjamin and George IS so rivetingly interesting and uniquely important as to make five movies and eighteen bestsellers. So they can be Oprah rich, as seen on TV.
Because someone would pay to watch them. They would. They must. If the NSA is even willing to break the law to clandestinely, surreptitiously watch them, who wouldn't ? Who wouldn't care ? Who could possibly not care ? [↩]
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Category: Cocietate si Sultura
Saturday, 26 March, Year 8 d.Tr.
The top 3 best self-introductions in #bitcoin-assets to date
Perhaps the most important question you might meet in this life is a simple "who are you". Here entombed for all eternity find some of the better answersi heard to date, in the hope that the list might serve and instruct.
On May 28th, 2013 :
fiat500 mircea_popescu: im an ios developer in the cydia (jailbreak) scene
On December 10th, 2013 :
kanzure i do stuff https://github.com/kanzure
On March 21st, 2014 :
ReutersEmily Huh I wonder how I would go about proving I'm from Reuters - happy to offer proof if you want.
On May 20th, 2014 :
davidlatapie I'm French, manager of Mintcoin, core team member of Monero (and other things probably not important here)
On October 8th, 2014 :
Quinn_ I created the bitcoin users in a nutshell cartoon.
On May the 13th, 2015 :
copypaste i own 8ch.net. i was here before, maybe when it was called 8chan.co, on a different nick.
On December 26th, 2015 :
okcupidslut hey mircea_popescu is http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ still open ?
On January 22th, 2016 :
polarbeard I've been toying with trb's building scripts, and I've managed to do a whole build, including sig verification and pressing by generating a makefile
Note that this is an uncharacteristically short article by Trilema standards. Let's fix this, shall we ?
———I lied, it's not three, it's however many. Also it's not a top, it's sorted historically. Feel free to vote on them or comment or whatever. [↩]
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Category: Bitcoin
Saturday, 23 January, Year 8 d.Tr.
The story of two boys
The first boy :
mircea_popescu aaand in other lulz, the city of buenos aires is selling ~500 acres of public property for gentrification projects ; including the all time favourite spot for the local "trabajadores" to "luchando", in front of the casa rosada
shinohai $up mtrgt
* deedbot gives voice to mtrgt
mtrgt voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu mtrgt ello. you the mexican guy ?
mtrgt Hello, micrea. Yes, that's me
mircea_popescu ah. so what can you do and what are you looking for ?
mtrgt I'm not even sure why I'm here to be honest. I was invited here by a PM on bitcointalk..
mircea_popescu no, i know. you're here because i ordered a survey of the ... hm... let's say politely bitcent space, and a coupla things popped up. satoshigalaxy, which got an add, and pokemonsomething, i don't recall, which apparently you bought
mircea_popescu so i asked shinohai who's one of the few republican folk with a tardstalk account to send you a pm.
mtrgt Let's move to PMs :)
mircea_popescu mno, can't really do that. what, sikrits ?
mtrgt First of all, you're rude. Second, my time is valuable. I'm here because I thought there's a business proposal, and I don't talk business in public chatrooms.
mircea_popescu ah ok. well then i guess that settles that. thanks for dropping by in any case.
mtrgt Do you have a proposal or shall I stop wasting my time?
mtrgt Have a good day
* mtrgt has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
* mircea_popescu likes it when things turn out to be simple.
shinohai xD
shinohai Not much entropy in that space.
The second boy :
* kunickis (576e8dc6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.110.*.*) has joined #eulora
kunickis Hello
kunickis Am from bitcointalk... I created GPG key but how to import it here?
kunickis $register
kunickis How to import that key?
kunickis $register GPGkey
kunickis But when i try it says
kunickis Import failed for
kunickis Anyone please help?
kunickis 20users online and no one can answer. -,-
diana_coman hi kunickis
diana_coman check the wiki
diana_coman otherwise shinohai might help you too when around
kunickis Am trying to register my key in deedbot but its says that "Import failed for EE63E9D620B01BEB15D9DCADE842FF77212C97A5. "
kunickis Yh already writed him, waiting for answer.
diana_coman hm,is that the right fingerprint there?
diana_coman eulora is for the patient in any case
kunickis Yh it's right fingerprint.
diana_coman hm, maybe it takes a bit of time to propagate
diana_coman is it a freshly made key /freshly sent to servers?
diana_coman give it some 20 minutes
kunickis Nah that key i created week ago.
kunickis Sent to server?
diana_coman eulorum.org/Account_Setup
lobbesbot Title: Account Setup - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org)
kunickis I need to put in certificate code yh?
kunickis How long does it takes to be added in servers?
kunickis I can't understand that tutorial for Eluorum on windows... :|
kunickis Does it have video tutorial too?
kunickis How to undestand this? 2. Install Service Pack 1 (it's mandatory, don't skip this step!).
kunickis Don't understand half of that tutorial.
kunickis Ok, key got registered.!
kunickis Ok am got that eulora game... now i need to register new account? or use that key ??
kunickis you have to ask mircea_popescu for account
kunickis Ohh okey. thanks ;)
* kunickis (576e8dc6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.110.*.*) has left #eulora
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kunickis mircea.
kunickis Can I get account for eulora?
mircea_popescu rowtan http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/54ca3d52-14b5-4253-a4bf-5706c7633324/
mircea_popescu kunickis yup one second
kunickis okey am waiting.
rowtan What do I do with that link?
mircea_popescu kunickis http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/11c598e6-6c3b-4a91-a666-ca45c168a50d/
mircea_popescu rowtan you decrypt it with your pgp tool
kunickis mircea am on game but dont understand anything.
mircea_popescu kunickis ok, what'd you like to understand ?
kunickis how to start.. how to get that first 0.01btc. how to get quests. how to withdraw haha. checked all nothing found.. and quest 0 . :|
mircea_popescu kunickis say hi i'm kunickis to me in game
mircea_popescu /t Mircea
mircea_popescu kunickis alrighty, you got 0.01 btc.
mircea_popescu would you like some tasks to earn another ?
kunickis sure.
mircea_popescu alright, come meet me in game. i'll give you a mining claim for you to dig up, then you have to transport the results to town. you gotta do two for another bitcent.
mircea_popescu i'm at 66 42 300
kunickis And how ti find you?
mircea_popescu just gave you my coords
kunickis And where to see in which cords am now?
diana_coman kunickis, type /pos
mircea_popescu can also use /point ; this stuff is on the wiki you know ?
kunickis Oh didnt see it.
kunickis Ok will try to fidn you haha ;d
mircea_popescu kunickis i think i just saw you pass me by :D
kunickis ho :D
kunickis oh*
mircea_popescu im the guy with the talbe, come trade me
kunickis mircea_popescu am here.
mircea_popescu trade me (right click)
mircea_popescu oops again please
kunickis you need to target container.
kunickis what is that?
mircea_popescu you were prolly trying to craft or something, dunno
kunickis Am clicking right click and getting "container"
mircea_popescu kunickis you're prolly hitting the sticks, try and hit me
mircea_popescu the sticks are mining claims
kunickis Ok. whats next?
mircea_popescu ok, so now kunickis : go to electron, buy one ordinary clump of dry grass bundle ; then go to where the key says coords, open the claim, put the enum in your mind and mine it.
mircea_popescu then bring the stuff it makes to me in town.
mircea_popescu lol hang on
kunickis mircea_popescu where is electron hehe? :D
mircea_popescu hill behind me
mircea_popescu around 160 50 160
kunickis oh okey.
kunickis oh i dead...
kunickis what to do now?
mircea_popescu doesn't do anything yet, just wait.
kunickis oh thanks./
mircea_popescu eventually it will be a big deal, but not just yet.
kunickis mircea_popescu Am almost there.. i need to mine what? stone?
mircea_popescu well what it says on the enum. grass iirc?
kunickis oh i forgot to open the claim...
kunickis when i come to cords that key says am all time die... :|
mircea_popescu well pick an alternate path what
kunickis i dont understand "open the claim" where and what to open? :| sorry am bad in english
mircea_popescu go to the coordinates, there's a stick there. you right-click on it and there's a door like icon
kunickis i need to go 252 48 -141 but am at 252 48 -119 how to be in -141 ? am tryng to go to all sides but then chacning all numbers... :|
mircea_popescu well... it's a game, right ? have to figure it out, that's what it's for.
kunickis Thats coordinates is insane to get! -,- All time when i am almost there i felling down from hill and dieing... -,-
mircea_popescu can you go around ?
mircea_popescu they can't be too hard, after all someone had to mine there to get it.
kunickis And again died. haha. ;D
* mircea_popescu cheers
shinohai kunickis may set some sort of record for most times dying in single session.
kunickis shinohai My coordinates is in hill where can't get... all time when am almost there at that - coordinate am sliding down hill and dying -,-
mircea_popescu go around ?
shinohai Patience young padawan
kunickis How around? If i need to go a little bit down.. when i go only one step am sliding down.
mircea_popescu you know, around. like come from other direction.
kunickis nooooooo. i was almost there and again slide down and died -,-
mircea_popescu ;/
mircea_popescu do you see it ? a stick with an inverted cone on top of it
* mircea_popescu comes over to check this wonder out.
mircea_popescu kunickis what coords did you say ? 252 48 -141 ?
kunickis yeah.
kunickis nah there is not any stick
mircea_popescu ima brt.
kunickis m?
mircea_popescu hm... no stick here...
kunickis yh... i said..
mircea_popescu this is pretty odd... ok kunickis meet me back in town ima give you a diff key.
kunickis ok
mircea_popescu weird shit.
kunickis I said haha. ;D
mircea_popescu i have nfi what happened here, this is like a first.
kunickis umm what was your cords? ma lost haha
kunickis am*
mircea_popescu 160 x 160 like
mircea_popescu you coming kunickis ?
kunickis wait where are you ?? there where you give me key?? 66 42 300 or wherei electron?
mircea_popescu close to electron yes
mircea_popescu like 160 50 160 or so
kunickis ... i went to that coordinates where you give me all haha
kunickis :D
mircea_popescu ah ok. nah im here in "town"
mircea_popescu gl kunickis
kunickis thanks ;)
kunickis Found hehe
kunickis You unlocked...
kunickis What was next to do when i claim?
kunickis shin do you know what do to next? mircea said me to go to key coordinates.. i found that sitkc and unlocked... what next you know?
kunickis and what to do now? :/
kunickis and where i can withdraw my earnings?
mircea_popescu kunickis put the bundle you bought in the stick, the enum in your brain and click the finger button
mircea_popescu and would you like btc or ecu ?
kunickis i put bundle in ... wich enum in my brain?
mircea_popescu kunickis clump of dry grass enumeration
kunickis I think am stupid :? I put in that bundle but dont get any enum or smth. xD
mircea_popescu i gave you the enum. it's like a scroll.
kunickis where you gave? in this chat or ingame? :D
mircea_popescu in game.
kunickis ahh you think that book?
mircea_popescu yep
kunickis Combine 15elusive.... whuut? :D
mircea_popescu nevermind, you have the bundle already.
kunickis Ok and whats now? ;D
mircea_popescu click the finger button
kunickis what is "finger button" ? :D
mircea_popescu first button on left side of claim window
kunickis sorry.. am bad in english haha
kunickis i dont have any claim windows..
kunickis window*
mircea_popescu so open the claim omfg.
kunickis where to open it omg? -,- :D
kunickis In that stick?
kunickis Or what?? -,-
mircea_popescu yes, the stick is the claim
diana_coman kunickis, dianacoman.com/euloras-first-grade-how-to-get-a-skill-build-a-claim-make-your-own-grass-etc
kunickis ok am in that container...
kunickis am opening that container... putting in that bundle... and whats next? -,- wtf is that fringerprint? -,-
mircea_popescu kunickis take your time, read up on the game, figure out how to do this.
mircea_popescu and keep the claim locked while you do all that, because unlocked claims disappear.
kunickis but i can't understand this step. -,-
mircea_popescu well, it's not for everyone.
kunickis you said me to put in that bundle
diana_coman kunickis, read the link I gave you
kunickis I putted it in...
kunickis mircea_popescu all fingers that is showing there is... "use the container" "take and stack all" "take all" ... and diana_coman I read that all and for that claim I do all but about wtf "fingerprint" not writted there.. -,-
mircea_popescu kunickis dude really. it's a button, push it.
kunickis i pusshing all buttons... all is with red text...
diana_coman lolz; fingerprint is the finger button I suppose, the one for use the container kunickis
kunickis 1. This Claim is used....
mircea_popescu wanna bet he didn't lock the claim, also ?
diana_coman o.o
kunickis I locked it. -,-
mircea_popescu well that's good, at least it won't run away.
diana_coman he says it's used
mircea_popescu no ?
diana_coman 1. This Claim is used....
kunickis When I press "Use the container" i got red text center of screen "This claim has been used"
mircea_popescu o.O
mircea_popescu so then you mined it ?
kunickis How much time to say that repeatlity...
mircea_popescu this is the first time you said it comprehensibly.
mircea_popescu do you still have the bundle ?
kunickis yh.. in that claim.
kunickis container*
* mircea_popescu goes to see THIS wonder also. wtf is with this guy, he's been blessed by the gods.
mircea_popescu what coords kunickis ?
kunickis -221 50 -155
mircea_popescu omw
kunickis m?
mircea_popescu on my way. omw.
mircea_popescu kunickis gimme the enum and key back plox
mircea_popescu sigh. trade me.
mircea_popescu now step a little back
mircea_popescu more than that
mircea_popescu how the fuck did that happen.
kunickis and what i trying to say you that i already pressed all but nothing. -,-
mircea_popescu yeah but you gotta be precise :)
kunickis then what to do now?
mircea_popescu try that one. they're all around here, i'll sit with you
* mircea_popescu is following kunickis around
* mircea_popescu feels a little drunk from the exercise :D
* diana_coman is laughing out loud
* shinohai imagines "So happy together" playing in the background.
mircea_popescu lol
mircea_popescu it's not even a little bit gay!
mircea_popescu i'm just behind him that's all.
kunickis item cannot be added to that container because container is guarded...
kunickis umm?
mircea_popescu maybe i was too close. try now ?
kunickis you start work 1....
kunickis something is loading.
mircea_popescu ha! well done!
mircea_popescu ok, when finished bring it to me in town.
kunickis finally. okey. ;)
mircea_popescu you never said, did you want to be paid in btc or ecu ?
kunickis in btc. ;)
mircea_popescu post addy
kunickis 1K6Gx6cWL3QgAUVkZLy7oWoLumvBNFL99t
mircea_popescu aite. will be 2 bitcents once you're done with this claim and another one.
kunickis oh thanks. :)
kunickis and another?
mircea_popescu yes, you get 1 bitcent for saying hi to me ; and 1 more bitcent after you deliver two claims.
kunickis oh okey.
mircea_popescu and there may be other jobs in the future ; and not just from me. iirc danielpbarron was looking to hire a noob too
kunickis hah. okey. ;D
kunickis so i can all time ask you for job and you will give?
mircea_popescu well, depends. just like irl, if there's a job to do.
kunickis oh okey.
kunickis you struggle under the weight of your inventory and must drop something... umm what?
mircea_popescu it's too heavy. take as much as you can carry ; leave rest behind (lock the claim)
kunickis i need to remember my coordiantes?
kunickis coordinates*
mircea_popescu kunickis sure, write them down.
kunickis umm my game stucked? i can't move. -,-
shinohai nah, exhibits same behavior.
kunickis i can click on all but cant move.
mircea_popescu you're overweighted.
kunickis how can i know how much i can take?
mircea_popescu open inventory says wegiht up right
mircea_popescu like 100 | 400 or such
mircea_popescu right click on stacks it tells you how much they weight
kunickis oh only 470 haha i got 15600. -,-
mircea_popescu o.*
kunickis something went wrong with game... i now see me from top...
kunickis OHH fixed... which coordinates was town?
mircea_popescu you prolly changed camera angle.
mircea_popescu 160 50 160
kunickis micrea_popescu am here...
kunickis what to do now?
mircea_popescu trade me kuni
kunickis mircea_popescu whats now?
mircea_popescu keep going till you brought it all.
kunickis mircea_popescu accept trade..
kunickis hello?
kunickis -,-
mircea_popescu aha
kunickis can i run in this game haha?
mircea_popescu yup\
kunickis how? :|
mircea_popescu on my set-up, i press T. but see in the settings, you can map keys
kunickis oh thanks!
mircea_popescu :)
kunickis accept trade
mircea_popescu faster now huh
kunickis heh
kunickis accept trade
mircea_popescu beat you to it haha
kunickis :D
mircea_popescu lol
kunickis mircea_popescu done!
mircea_popescu all done ? nice!
kunickis yh.
mircea_popescu trade me for next 1
mircea_popescu this time ytou get shiny rock bundle
kunickis he oky.
kunickis heh*
kunickis i was afk... and I forgot to buy bundle haha :D found that cointainer but now need to run back to buy bundle haha :D
mircea_popescu lol
kunickis i put in shiny rock bundle and that receipt.. but getting again red ""what do you have in mind to build?"
kunickis oh no all is ok
mircea_popescu :p
kunickis forgot to add receipt in mind haha. put it in container. ok waiting loading haha ;D
mircea_popescu are you having fun yet ?
kunickis yh. nice game.
kunickis like it.
mircea_popescu cool
kunickis at start think that hard.. but now starting understand. :D
mircea_popescu it makes sense in its own way
kunickis yh.
kunickis this bundle will take more time aghh ;d
kunickis accept
kunickis mircea trade
mircea_popescu too slow kunickis :D
kunickis haha. :D
kunickis mircea_popescu run not working no more... i set it too to T ... it was worked but for now when i press T i go slower.. :/
mircea_popescu well it toggles walk/run
kunickis trade
kunickis can i upgrade my weight?
mircea_popescu kunickis not so far.
kunickis uhh sad.
kunickis trade
kunickis trade
kunickis trade
kunickis trade
kunickis I think i will never take to you that all rock. -,- I can only take 1k with one time.. and there is 63k more. -,-
kunickis And run not working for me now. -,-
mircea_popescu try relogging for the run maybe ?
mircea_popescu 14:11 trade 14:15 kunickis> trade so you're doing one run in four minutes, 60 runs = four hours.
kunickis omg. 4hours...
mircea_popescu better than faucets worse than flipping burgers i guess.
kunickis yh but 0.005 for 4hours don't know. and its only start, what will be later? haha :D
kunickis nah, relloged but run don't work.
kunickis Are you mining bitcoins with that game?
kunickis CPU 50% fuck that.. -,-
shinohai lol srsly?
kunickis Yeah... look task manager..
kunickis mircea_popescu trade
shinohai I don't think anyone here is desperate enough to cpu mine for bitcoinz
kunickis this game is not too good to eat 50% CPU haha.
kunickis It's mining 100%
shinohai I have 0 cpu issues, just fps stuff or whatever
kunickis because your co-owner ? -,- and your saying it to me to dont worry? hah...
kunickis why now mircea_popescu not answering? -,-
shinohai I'm not co-owner lol
kunickis mircea_popescu How to withdraw for now?
mihi kunickis, fwiw it is also killing one core for me, but pretty sure it is not cpu mining, but prolly misses some sleep/yield/select calls somewhere...
kunickis mihi okey.. but how to withdraw for now my earned btc?
mihi tried to reduce the fps in the menu, but did not help. Anyway, got my first 0.01 and that's enough for me beta testing this pre-alpha quality software
kunickis Yh on bitcointalk said that i can get 0.005 every hour... but for now i can get that 0.005 every 4hours. lel.. half a day today played and got 0.015 ok its not bad but anyway how to withdraw for now?
mihi I asked mircea_popescu, but it seems from the wiki you can also ask a Mr. Goldskull ingame
mihi not sure if that is a NPC or just some bored person :D
jurov Goldskull is me
kunickis jurov how to withdraw ?
jurov We'll meet ingame, you give me coppers and I send coins
kunickis and how much coppers is worth? :|
jurov 1 copper = 1 satoshi
kunickis wtf are you kidding me? So i earned only 0.001btc for half day?
mircea_popescu trade ?
kunickis mircea_popescu wtf so how much i earned??
jurov That's between you an mircea_popescu. Maybe he uses another exchange rate, I was not following
kunickis only 0.001 for half a day played??
mircea_popescu kunickis 0.01 for saying hi aaaand once you deliver this, another 0.01
kunickis So for now i earned 0.015 ?
mircea_popescu mno. you gotta do both to get a bitcent. there's no 0.005
kunickis than you are lying on btalk? -,- There said 0.005btc/hour. so i will earned that 0.005 in four hours?
mircea_popescu well, how much time you take is entirely up to you.
mircea_popescu the figure's an average.
kunickis avarage? lel how can i run to my container and get back within 1minute? haha its impossible. -,-
mircea_popescu not really.
kunickis i wanna withdraw for now what i earned.
kunickis how to do it?
mircea_popescu there's a lot to learn / a lot of tricks and subtlety to this game
mircea_popescu ill send you your bitcent momentarily.
kunickis ok.
shinohai Well you can always go back to the comforting predictability of faucets if this isn't for you.
mircea_popescu you wanna give me back the key to the claim ? you done trying for the 2nd ?
kunickis No i will do it later.
mircea_popescu aite.
kunickis Yh you think i will do half a job and end with it haha no -,-
kunickis what means "aite"? -,-
mircea_popescu hey, up to you what.
mircea_popescu aite = alright.
kunickis heh, oky. how long you will be online? for example if you will not be online what to do me with that claim?
mircea_popescu i'm usually online.
mircea_popescu but yes, this is a good time to mine it seeing how i'm right here.
kunickis but if your offline then i don't have job yh?
mircea_popescu well, you could also make a claim right here by me, keep its key and move stuff to it.
mircea_popescu that'd work with me offline just as well.
mircea_popescu then when i show up you can just deliver.
kunickis but how can i trade with you if you offline?
mircea_popescu you can't ; but you can move the stuff.
kunickis how?
kunickis move the stuff to where?
mircea_popescu see, claims are produced through mining. you can in principle end up with one anywhere. such as right here in town.
kunickis but i dont understand... where to put it? -,-
mircea_popescu what it ?
kunickis for example for now rock.
kunickis i am trading it with you but where to put it when you offline?
mircea_popescu do you see these claims right next to me here ?
kunickis wait will turn game on
shinohai In latvia, rok is potato, no kunickis ?
kunickis ?
mircea_popescu trrrade me.
mircea_popescu kunickis see, the stick to my left ?
kunickis yh
mircea_popescu so that's a claim ; just like the one you're mining. if you make a claim of your own right here ; and keep the key to it
mircea_popescu then you can move rocks from the one away to the one here, keep them locked
mircea_popescu when i come on just give them over
kunickis but how to get this claim key?
mircea_popescu /explore
mircea_popescu sometimes you get lucky and find something\
kunickis thats is not a exploration tool ... i got that error.
mircea_popescu what's in your hand ?
kunickis nothing?
mircea_popescu hm.
mircea_popescu tell you what, trade me and i'll give you a free pickaxe. you can use that.
mircea_popescu lemme just finish with shinohai first
kunickis olk
mircea_popescu and read up about the bot
kunickis ?
mircea_popescu !topic
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