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Nerd, ruby dev, systems theory adversarial thinker/arm chair general, Bitcoin enthusiast, toki pona πŸ—£πŸ‘ and other language barrier breaking methods advocate relays = [ relayable.org, nostr.wine, nostr.milou.lol, paid.spore.ws, nostr.uselessshit.co, nostr-pub.wellorder.net ]
Replying to Avatar s3x_jay

Just to be clear I'm not saying relays or Damus or whatever have to do moderation on every possible category that someone somewhere might want to moderate. Only that there are certain minimal levels of moderation that are required by law.

Relays need to comply with the laws where their server is located and where the owner has a business presence (or where they're a resident/citizen if it's owned by an individual).

Damus and other iOS apps have to comply with Apple's rules - which are based primarily on US/EU law. That might change somewhat when Apple introduces support for other app stores. But given that it's the EU mandating that change I can't imagine those app stores will be legal free-for-alls.

And I'd add that anyone that runs a web client on their domain has to comply with certain laws as well or they also risk problems. They can be sued, they can be charged with crimes, their domain can be seized.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out legally. I expect you're going to hear the Client apps/applications say "that's not my data - I got it from a bunch of relays - in fact most of those relays were chosen by the user - not by us". Meanwhile the relays will say "I didn't present the information to the user. I gave it to the Client app/application - it was the Client's job to figure out what to present and what to ignore." There are some really interesting legal questions presented by Nostr…

You don't want to be the guy who gets sued or prosecuted first. Lawyers are expensive. Let someone else be the guinea pig.

*Tor

Replying to Avatar s3x_jay

Just to be clear I'm not saying relays or Damus or whatever have to do moderation on every possible category that someone somewhere might want to moderate. Only that there are certain minimal levels of moderation that are required by law.

Relays need to comply with the laws where their server is located and where the owner has a business presence (or where they're a resident/citizen if it's owned by an individual).

Damus and other iOS apps have to comply with Apple's rules - which are based primarily on US/EU law. That might change somewhat when Apple introduces support for other app stores. But given that it's the EU mandating that change I can't imagine those app stores will be legal free-for-alls.

And I'd add that anyone that runs a web client on their domain has to comply with certain laws as well or they also risk problems. They can be sued, they can be charged with crimes, their domain can be seized.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out legally. I expect you're going to hear the Client apps/applications say "that's not my data - I got it from a bunch of relays - in fact most of those relays were chosen by the user - not by us". Meanwhile the relays will say "I didn't present the information to the user. I gave it to the Client app/application - it was the Client's job to figure out what to present and what to ignore." There are some really interesting legal questions presented by Nostr…

You don't want to be the guy who gets sued or prosecuted first. Lawyers are expensive. Let someone else be the guinea pig.

Damus is better thought of as a web browser than a website.

Relay defaults might come under that scrutiny sure, but ultimately, it will be relays that have to answer those legal questions.

(Nudge nudge, run your relay over for for goodness sake)

πŸŒΌπŸ’› β€œHello, I'm a dandelion.

A lot of people call me a weed but I'm a friend and come to help you!

My flowers are the first food for insects after hibernation and unlike most other plants, I have pollen AND nectar, not merely one OR the other! And I am generous with them!

When you see me, remember that I'm the ONLY one who wants and can grow in that particular spot. Because:

Either the soil is too compact / hard / stomped and I want to loosen it for you with my roots.

Or there is too little calcium in the soil - don't worry, I will replenish that for you with the dying of my leaves.

Or the soil is too acidic. But I will also improve that for you if you give me the chance.

Or a mixture of the above reasons, of course.

I'm here because your soil needs my help so best you let me grow without disturbing me! When everything is fixed, I will disappear again, I promise!

Are you trying to remove me prematurely with my root? However meticulous you are, I will return 2x as strong! Just until your soil is improved.

You can even tell by my growth at which stage my help is at. If my leaves are flat on the ground then I'm far from ready but if they all reach up then I'm already a long way on my way.

Something completely different is that I am 1 of the first bloomers in spring so I will announce spring / summer for you.

During the day when it's hot, I open my flowers but in the evening when it cools off I close them again quickly. In fact, if it's not hot enough during the day I won't open them at all!

My flowers are even delicious for you people by the way, did you know? I used to be called β€²β€²honey (or gold) of the poorβ€²β€² because my flowers are so sweet in e.g. jam, sauce or salad! The internet is full of recipes - check them out.

But wait until the end of May or later before you start picking and even then, don't pick everything yet! The biodiversity and bees will be very grateful!”

"Hello I'm dandelion. Some people call me a weed"

You really picked 4/20 to post this lmao.

Good information nonetheless. Be careful about eating dandelions by the way. If its in your yard its probably fine, but anywhere else, it could have poisonous weed killer sprayed on it.

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Why?

Relies on game theory rather than trust in a coordinator.

Brother, its a completely different use case lol.

It is a device that signs a transaction. You have in addition to it, software to then broadcast and even create that transaction.

In this way, a signing device is more akin to a pen, than to a wallet.

No, because its a garbage protocol. Just use torrents.

So, with all you fellow using alby and wallet of satoshi to receive zaps, who happens to run a routing node with a direct channel to those entities? I'd like to use blixt to set up a private channel with you.

No, DYOR is not enough coming from us. Shitcoiners say DYOR. We gotta say "Here's this learning resource"

The only adversary that knows my every thought, movement, desire, and who is always with me at all times. The only adversary who holds the power to kill me at any breathing moment. I have no greater adversary, than myself.

In the same way, I have no greater friend and caretaker of my wellbeing.