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Yea, this is not changing how that works, it’s an new feature for optional extra privacy for those who want it. Imagine wanting to stay out up to date on 3D printed arms, divisive political figures, etc. but having to make separate accounts to follow them without the risk of being put on list by state-bootlicking activists or NYT ‘journalists’ 👎

Or being a popular nym account and wanting to follow friends or family members without doxxing yourself

I see: nostr:note1lucq9kfgzc6gqrsy0yjckgrkhe0280365ajfy6chn869s2mgupsqhx5y89

seeing those you look to as sources of credibility/signal - and being able to “network” via being able to see who they in turn follow - is valuable, IMO

Yea, this is not changing how that works, it’s an new feature for optional extra privacy for those who want it. Imagine wanting to stay out up to date on 3D printed arms, divisive political figures, etc. but having to make separate accounts to follow them without the risk of being put on list by state-bootlicking activists or NYT ‘journalists’ 👎

Encrypted contact list. Follow someone and no one else can know.

Is this a lot of work? Any bounty for the feature already exist?

idk “private follows” sounds/feels a little stalkerish

Lol this is a dumb take. All notes are public. You can see someone’s notes without following already.

What exactly does private follow mean to you #[2] ?

You can follow someone, and no one knows?

You can follow someone, and only the person you follow knows?

I originally thought “no one knows”. Not sure what telling only the person you’re following would accomplish. Feels like a “like” to me, a social cue not a real value exchange. But I guess if it’s easy either way give users both options?

#[0] any idea when we’ll have private follows?

#[0] any idea when we’ll have private follows?

I agree…

We were only hesitant to open up until we were further along because it would be easy for someone to steal our code & make a poorer functioning version to claim the bounty before we completed it.

It was a financial competition afterall, so we had to act accordingly.

If you develop in the open it’s clear to all who did what work, with zaps the value flow can start immediately from those you deliver value to.

#[2] you did incentive something, but you’re right to think harder about if it was the correct thing, maybe grants to promising teams and devs who are making progress to the goal.

At this point, we’re going to finish building it either way… really hope you don’t cancel it though! We’ve got quite a motivated team.

You should just open it all up and build it in the open, nostr not bluesky, ppl want to help you and review I’m sure

Seth For Privacy

Yup, this is how I use it right now.

So this is desktop only? Does alby work on mobile?

NoKYCTranslate.com allows you to pay for access to its machine translation services via Bitcoin / Lightning. Other services, like Google Translate, require your credit card and/or some personally identifying information about you.

What about https://huggingface.co/chat/ ? Seemed to work well prompting it to translate, can you download the model and do it locally somehow? Open source chat gpt.

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Also your wallet has a distinguishing feature, QR code scanning, that CC lacks. Building upon open source code and making those improvements available to all is what it’s about, anything else invoking “open source” is a charade. #[2] hope you agree. You (NVK) can build a closed source, or “source verifiable” model like Ledger or others but don’t try to profit off of an ethos you don’t actually believe in.

“source-viewable”**

We recommend using the Alby browser extension to use Primal as a web client for now! Stay tuned for more updates soon :)

Is there a video / screenshots guide somewhere on doing this?

Seth For Privacy

A quick response here, but first off I want to say I absolutely love @ODELL and have the utmost respect for him.

Overall Matt confirms the points I made in my thread about CC being non-FOSS, but unfortunately uses the same harsh rhetoric of "cloning" as NVK does.

An open-source project leveraging code from another open-source project to build a product that competes in the free market is not "cloning".

Passport was created as an alternative that is easier to use and more approachable, but shared the (very solid) security model.

When it comes to security it's absurd to roll your own setup for no reason when a comprehensive and excellent security model already exists, and all credit to NVK for an excellent approach taken.

Leveraging an open-source security model for a new product is just smart.

Passport used this well-vetted security model and some of the code from CC to build a competing product with an aim of allowing more people to store their Bitcoin securely without all the technical barriers.

That is not "cloning".

One additional thought here - NVK initially leveraged code from Trezor and built a competing product that improved on a lot of the model Trezor had.

I don't consider that cloning either, and wouldn't call it that.

It's simply embracing FOSS and free markets.

For more context you can refer to my original thread that prompted all of this here:

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Also your wallet has a distinguishing feature, QR code scanning, that CC lacks. Building upon open source code and making those improvements available to all is what it’s about, anything else invoking “open source” is a charade. #[2] hope you agree. You (NVK) can build a closed source, or “source verifiable” model like Ledger or others but don’t try to profit off of an ethos you don’t actually believe in.

Help us decide what's next in SimpleX Chat!

Please vote on the issues on the board in GitHub in "Prioritising" column (put thumbs up on exactly one of them, you'll need an account):

https://github.com/orgs/simplex-chat/projects/3/views/1

Thank you!

Can you make a poll on nostr instead? I’ve seen Amethyst do this for future feature voting.

I disagree. It’s the only way I was able to motivate a few other coders to help me with the project. Robin at ZeroSync even cracked Sats4File — a way to atomically swap files for coins off-chain over Lightning.

Yes, repos are stored on relays — but it isn’t quite that simple. We’re creating a layered architecture. It will take a few more months, but I’m hoping an open-source beta will be ready by November.

Any ZeroSync people on nostr?

Seth For Privacy

Would love one, don't see a clear way in the app to claim any?

“in the app” ? I don’t even see a way to log in on the website. Is there an app version? Or you mean web app? Still, how to log in? It just says you can’t do stuff anon for me when I try to follow etc

Though, building an Android version is looking like something worth considering now.

Indeed 🙏

Web first. We’ll focus for a while on expanding web client capabilities with more filters, analytics, and support for different Nostr content.

Will it support being a native web app I can save to my home screen?

“We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.” … my speech to the Akawin Deck team as we continue to optimize for performance and fix bugs before release.

Is this a multi OS app? Web? What will come first?

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