How to delete events on nostr?
I show you how. I will try to delete my note
note1z2vmsf0dcdthsr4z2zuhzv2zaxgsw3jhhvwdrarcpv5nhe3pqlaq988xq0
which is from the 29th of February 2024.
It´s not easy, in fact it is a bit of annoying, as you need to send a delete-request & verify, send a delete-request & verify, send a delete-request & verify, several times. So it will take several days until my note is finally gone.
But let´s try it.
I you want to help me and all others that need to delete their older postings, please show us, if my older note is still visible in your nostr App/Client/Web. But give me 3 days first before you post your results. Thank you!!!
Here is the link to my message/event and if its finally deleted this space should be empty (on nostr clients that support "retweets")
https://primal.net/e/note1z2vmsf0dcdthsr4z2zuhzv2zaxgsw3jhhvwdrarcpv5nhe3pqlaq988xq0
Lets give it a try.
On my profile you and everyone else can see how I (try to) delete one of my older events.
I use Primal the most, and they are gone there too (or are not shown anymore)!
iris.to works best for me.
And i checked it a few days later on nostr.band search engine, and its gone there too!
My experience:
I need to send the delete request several times (2 - 6 times). But then my events are gone. (Or/And dropped out by non-NIP09 relays)
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1.
I am not here every day...
2.
Your are an russian fake spreading bastard
3.
Spain blocked Telegram - so its not unblockable!
Will block YOU now!
all I listed was as far as I knew, and we learn by sharing and talking.
1-
Do you really call this mutliple account support ?
see how amethyst/simplexchat does mutiple account support.
2-
as far as I know, yes no one can be 100% sure what is running on the servers, but how is there no use for the source code of the server? seems dumb tbh.
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I'm no expert, I really don't know, will try to read what you listed.
4-
How is it outdated, you said that the GP ver. can be 'configured' to work without google, this confirms that the libraries are still shipped with that ver.!
5-
I'm not saying that is always bad, I was just listing things that people may not like about threema. being centralized makes it easly blocked by governments, right?
6-
you(or threema) are not the one to determine what is the best user limit of a group! this is just dumb
it's like how 'discord femboys' argued that the 8mb file limit is great beacuse it makes memes pixelated and that's funnier!
7- https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html
says that threema partially Avoids / Protects metadata during use, unlike simplexchat or session.
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"Threema only stores messages until they have been delivered to the recipient."
what is new here ??
same as what'sapp/simplexchat.
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"If you communicate digitally - and we all do that today - and don't want to leave any traces behind, there's no way around the Threema app."
buying the app is a trace!
10-
screensharing is a feature
people might need it,so I listed it,simple.
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as for destructing messages,
I asked the simplexchat devs if it provides anything over deleting by hand, still a feature.
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"Even if a message has disappeared from the chat, it remains in the notification log of the cell phone operating system, for example, and can be read by third parties using simple means. "
good point, that obv applies for all apps.
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as for being paid, I get that you feel i just listed everything 'bad' with threema, but still, being paid is a 'big wall' to get over when trying to get people to switch,"why should I buy threema when what'sapp is free"
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"What are the few dollars for Threema compared to being permanently spied on by all the other messengers?"
really? all? you threemaer
1 = yes
And its real dataprotection, because if you have multiple accounts in one App, this App knows all your Identitys.
2.
You can´t verify. Signal presents its user a "clean" servercode - and what Google, Amazon, Microsoft & Cloudflare are doing is invisible!
That a "Bullshit"-Code to gag on their user.... = useless !
4.
No its not! Like any other thing in this world: If it switched off there is no more connection.
5.
Switzerland will never block Threema, because they use it widely in the swiss administration and the swiss army. They don´t shoot themself in the knee! Threema has never been blocked, will never and is permanent online for 11 1/2 years now.
You can dream something else now.
6.
A messenger must be useable. If you have a group with 200.000 Users (like in Telegram possible) and everybody write something every minute, you battery will go from 100% ----> 0% within 3 hours!
Large Groups are bullshit!
7.
Then ask Mike Kuketz, what he means.... when I ask him, he never answered.
WhatsApp stores all your messages permanently, decrypts it and profiles you psychologically for meta and for advertisers.
SimpleX runs accross relays and not every relay runs the original servercode. The same issue as above....
9.
You can buy Threema without any trace.
No Email needed. You can pay anonymous with Appstore Vouchers, Cash Money or with Bitcoin. And from me with Bitcoin Lightning, without any Data from you, going to Threema - guaranteed!
10.
Its safe to make your own Screenshot and then send it with Threema as pictures. Its safer then including a Screeshot-Routine within the App.
11. +12.
Its all stored in the notification-log. And you never know how the smartphone of the receipent is configured. There is no use for chat that is deleted in the messenger, if its stil available in log-textfile!
13. + 14.
Threem stores nothing.
WhatsApp stores ALL you intimates chats, pictures & videos. If they get into the wrong hands, it will turn out very bad for you.
Learn to think twice, my friend! Here are the right informations for you:
Why Threema Instead of WhatsApp?
https://threema.ch/en/why-threema
Messenger Comparison
EXIT.pub is a tool by @pablof7z that allows you to import your tweets into nostr.
I don´t need a "critical mass".
I like the intelligent people who are already here.
You urgently need to update your prejudices, then you will spread less misinformation.
But when someone is already called "epicshitposter", you can't expect much competence.
"no multiple accounts/profiles"
That's wrong. Anyone can install 2 versions from the Appstore Threema and Threema Work. And then have 2 Threema IDs. For example, to separate private and business communication.
Android User can even install ThreemaLibre for a third ID!
"only client is open-source"
That is correct. But the source code for the server is of no use to anyone, because no one can verify whether it's actually running on their production servers. The same applies to other messengers, such as Signal!
"no post-quantum encryption"
It doesn't even exist! Anything that can be encrypted can also be decrypted again. This has less to do with the messenger than with quantum technology.
By the way:
"Researchers use a Commodore C64 to calculate a quantum computer - and annoy IBM with it
Researchers have beaten a quantum computer with an old Commodore 64. The experiment is a friendly dig at IBM, which has claimed that only quantum computers are capable of performing such calculations."
See (unfortunately only in German = please translate for yourself):
https://t3n.de/news/forscher-c64-berechnung-quantencomputer-ibm-1619710/
"only f-droid ver. comes without proprietary libraries"
This is also outdated. The version from the Google Playstore can also be configured to work without Google.
"centralized"
Right, because with Threema this is a security feature. It always depends on how an operator handles it!
There may be spy servers in federated systems that collect your data, see Signal or Matrix. I wrote more about this above.
You can also host Threema on your own server:
"maximum number of participants group chat is 256"
That is correct. More users makes no sense. If everyone writes something, no one can keep up anyway!
"not the best at protecting metadata"
What makes you think that? Threema is the only messenger that doesn't store any metadata.
Threema only stores messages until they have been delivered to the recipient.
And most importantly: Threema is the only messenger that does not store any metadata or IP addresses.
If you communicate digitally - and we all do that today - and don't want to leave any traces behind, there's no way around the Threema app.
"no screensharing"
Threema is programmed for the greatest possible data protection, which of course also means that no one can read your screen (except you). Android users can also activate the screenshot lock.
"destructing messages"
So far, there is no implementation of self-destructing messages that offers real, reliable security and goes beyond gimmickry.
Even if a message has disappeared from the chat, it remains in the notification log of the cell phone operating system, for example, and can be read by third parties using simple means.
This lulls you into a false sense of security. As I said, false security is not our thing.
"paid"
There is no such thing as a "free messenger" - there are always some data collectors behind it!
Look where the money comes from = Look who´s behind !!!
Threema has no dubious financier in the background and is therefore completely independent.
Private users pay a one-time fee to ensure that they are not spied on.
What are the few dollars for Threema compared to being permanently spied on by all the other messengers?
If you want to buy Threema with sats, you can do it from me:
https://primal.net/e/note14r3uwldurcseuuu9wzntgjsacag3wh3yesrezs5y3ukde6zgmk2sw5708f
or note:
note14r3uwldurcseuuu9wzntgjsacag3wh3yesrezs5y3ukde6zgmk2sw5708f
You definitiv need go deeper with your researches....
Telegram
= NO privacy & NO Dataprotection at all= it´s #Putins Messenger to destroy democratic states.
Everythins is stored in some russian cloud.
And everyone can hack into any Telegram account with Websites like TGTracker!!!
Signal
All traffic of the SignalApp goes over the Clouds of Amazon, Google, Microsoft & Cloudflare - they only talk about "third partys"!
Do you think thats secure?
Especially in combination with US (Spy) Cloud-Act
"The CLOUD Act primarily amends the Stored Communications Act (SCA) of 1986 to allow federal law enforcement to compel U.S.-based technology companies via warrant or subpoena to provide requested data stored on servers regardless of whether the data are stored in the U.S. or on foreign soil."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
Everybody can verify this. These subdomains, are used by signal
Amazon:
textsecure-service.whispersystems.org, cdn.signal.org, sfu.voip.signal.org
Google:
storage.signal.org, contentproxy.signal.org
Microsoft:
api.directory.signal.org, api.backup.signal.org
Cloudflare:
cdn2.signal.org
Make a "tracert" in your Windows-Console and you will see that the last contact is always the IT-Gigant above.
Its even more worse:
These 4 big IT-Gigants can see and store the IP Adresses from the sender and receiver. So they can collect all the metadata around your person.
MetaData is, what it is all about!!!
"Metadata absolutely tells you everything about somebody´s life. If you have enough metadata, you don´t really need content."
SA General Counsel
Stewart Baker
Read:
"We kill people based on metadata"
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/05/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/
Also Signal:
"we showed that the multi-device support of the #Signal messenger can be abused to eavesdrop on all communication after a one-time credential breach.
Thus, currently, the Signal messenger does not provide message privacy in the post-compromise security scenario."
https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/626.pdf
It´s NOT possible to use the Signalapp anonymous, as you need to give out your mobilenumber. So you can be tracked with "silent SMS".
Matrix / Element
Matrix is a (h)spawn of the American Amdocs Group!
"The initial project was created inside Amdocs..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)
You should take a closer look at what they do:
In more than 90 countries with over 26,000 employees, they generate mobile phone bills for more than half of the world's population and provide services for the mobile phone industry!
Mobile phone companies send them the connection data and Amdocs apparently only creates the bill.
This means that since the 1980s they have known who has been in contact with whom, how often, for how long and at what time!
So you can easily say that Amdocs is the world's first big metadata company. Even the USA went too far and in 1999 they tried to investigate the company and shut it down!
Amdocs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdocs
So we shouldn't be surprised if they now want to continue this metadata collection "passion" with messengers too.
The Matrix protocol is intentionally designed to reveal metadata!
The Matrix Client Element even openly admits that they use metadata to profile users!
This is stated in their privacy declaration (under 2.2):
"... but we might profile metadata ..."
The Matrix Client Element even openly admits that they use metadata to profile users!
The Israeli Morris Kahn doesn't just invest 20 - 30 million in Matrix & Element, he always wants something in return = MetaData.
Session
Session comes from the creators of the most unsuccessful cryptocurrency Loki!
I think the only purpose of this messenger is to fill their dead blockchain with life
There are also dubious backers from China behind it - see: https://loki.network/team/
SimpleX Chat
everything is alread said here:
https://primal.net/e/note1g0vd77lghpsukc47dqmzqfk3w820heh8ej2q3vndvsnr5vhwpjcs9ff37q
or note:
note1g0vd77lghpsukc47dqmzqfk3w820heh8ej2q3vndvsnr5vhwpjcs9ff37q
###############
When you gonna learn:
There is no such thing as a "free messenger" - there are always a data collectors behind it!
Look where the money comes from = Look who´s behind !!!
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There is only one messenger, for which the user pays a one-off fee and which does not collect any data in return.
Threema only stores messages until they have been delivered to the recipient.
And most importantly: Threema is the only messenger that does not store any metadata or IP addresses.
If you communicate digitally - and we all do that today - and don't want to leave any traces behind, there's no way around the Threema app.
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time)
2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80
3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
5. SimpleX Chat *= 67
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema you can do it from me:
https://primal.net/e/note14r3uwldurcseuuu9wzntgjsacag3wh3yesrezs5y3ukde6zgmk2sw5708f
or note:
note14r3uwldurcseuuu9wzntgjsacag3wh3yesrezs5y3ukde6zgmk2sw5708f
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time)
2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80
3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
5. SimpleX Chat *= 67
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment