when i say "beat Russia" i don't mean "take moscow" or even "kick them out of donbass" but simply end the war on such terms that Ukrainians can return to pre-war level quality of life.

personally, even as somebody born in Ukraine, i don't think Ukraine needs territories in the East that are 90% ethnically Russian. those are liabilities, not assets, even if they have natural resources.

if i was leading Ukraine i would work out an agreement where Russia keeps ethnically Russian territories in exchange for rebuilding everything they destroyed and providing financial support for children they have orphaned until they turn 18.

the remaining part of Ukraine would have to join NATO and EU as part of same agreement.

i actually don't think either Ukrainians or Putin would accept those terms but this is what needs to happen.

even when i lived in Kiev it was always understood that east and west are different countries. as a Russian speaker i knew never to travel to the west of Ukraine or i would be beaten senseless for being a foreigner.

No, I just know what happened to the up till then unstoppable German army when it invaded the USSR, and I'm aware of the US track record vs far weaker militaries than the Russian.

Ultimately, the whole discussion is irrelevant though as a war between Russia and the US is guaranteed to destroy the world as we know it and make everyone a loser. Either country attacking the other is a suicidal move.

tell me son, if US wanted to win - why are they sending money and weapons now instead of when the war started ?

what was the point of waiting until the last moment to send help ?

or do you also believe that Biden really "forgot" $40 billion of weapons in Afghanistan and it wasn't deliberately left there ?

You're being fed synthetic discussions to keep the appearance that your leaders are in control of the situation and all they'd need to do is to "unchain" their proxies with a pen stroke.

To rationalize you come up with conspiratorial tales of your leaders actually not wanting to destroy Russia but in secret having other obscure "plans".

Your ego is tied to the ability of your nation state being able to impose its will on other people and and it's doing everything to avoid an existential crisis.

The architects of this conflict are fully aware of this and they are using it to keep you at bay.

Keep trusting the plan.

Imagine if you could buy a box of a dozen butterines for $14.99, would that sound like a good deal to you? Luscious cripsy butterines!

What are butterines you ask? I don't know yet. But with a name like that, people are gonna buy 'em.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's your best comeback?

Well, I'm a Xennial running a 2010 desktop powered by Bodhi Linux 7 (22.04), developing using Hugo (Jamstack ftw!), running my own projects, a blogger, ghostwriter, etc. So, who's saying what about 2010 computers?