Yes but it's also a huge reason we don't have huge adoption for use case. If Bitcoin is to be used for everyday activities, it must be feeless to compete with fiat systems which are already feeless. Set base fees punish transactions of higher frequency, punishing the dollar store more than car dealership, making unbalanced market viability. With the world turning to microtransactions, should we really be making base fees that actually deter mtxs?

That's called going the wrong way.

That is why Zenon Network, a sister network for Bitcoin, is working to provide feeless infrastructure and decentralized apps for Bitcoin so that it can actually be used in the real world frictionlessly everyday.

Take the green pill.

i imagine if every nostr developer jumped on the vibe coding train, we'd move 10x faster to addressing all the issues, connecting the ecosystem, and presenting new use cases that solve actual problems rather than just copying the incumbents like twitter and bluesky.

but, it has to be seen as better input, not straight output. it can make you a better and faster programmer if you let it. but it's not going to produce something you're proud of and that moves the needle on it's own. yet.

try codename goose, cursor, v0, firebase, loveable...all of them. the speed increase is immense, the removal of mechanical burden is great, and that allows you to focus on inventing and fixing the really tough problems.

what frustrates people more... that their message doesn't reach every node? or that they can't read every message from every node?

Gm,

Nostr sucks because it's mostly all chronological follow feeds without good algorithms. Good content is extremely hard to discover and will be missed most of the time.

There's a reason why every single social media service uses them - because that's what billions of users want

Only a community of bitcoiners can be so stubborn to look at our user retention rates and see their feeds go stale constantly and still believe that private keys will bail us out of inferior UX

Tell your client devs you want algorithms, they exist, they're just not implemented

Reading this 10 hours later, just like I've read Vitor post on a similar topic several hours later. I have to disagree with you on this one utxo. I'm very happy with chronological feeds. Clients can use your algo relay or DVMs for algorithmic feeds. And sure, they can support it, but I'd rather they don’t impose algos on users or make it the default experience.

What I really wish is that people would hit the boost/reshare and comment buttons much more often, as well as follow tags and new npubs with fewer followers.

As for clients, I’d love to see more support for NIP-51-like features so I can create lists of my favourite users and hashtags and keep up with them in chronological order from where I left off (kinda like Nostur). This is exactly what I’m doing with Fediverse stuff + Fedilab, and it works wonders. I often read posts that are six months old and have had some of my own posts reshared months after I originally posted them.

19\. März 2025

### 🔐 1. SHA-256 is Quantum-Resistant

Bitcoin’s **proof-of-work** mechanism relies on SHA-256, a hashing algorithm. Even with a powerful quantum computer, **SHA-256 remains secure** because:

- Quantum computers excel at **factoring large numbers** (Shor’s Algorithm).

- However, **SHA-256 is a one-way function**, meaning there's no known quantum algorithm that can efficiently reverse it.

- **Grover’s Algorithm** (which theoretically speeds up brute force attacks) would still require **2¹²⁸ operations** to break SHA-256 – far beyond practical reach.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

### 🔑 2. Public Key Vulnerability – But Only If You Reuse Addresses

Bitcoin uses **Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm (ECDSA)** to generate keys.

- A quantum computer could use **Shor’s Algorithm** to break **SECP256K1**, the curve Bitcoin uses.

- If you never reuse addresses, it is an additional security element

- 🔑 1. Bitcoin Addresses Are NOT Public Keys

Many people assume a **Bitcoin address** is the public key—**this is wrong**.

- When you **receive Bitcoin**, it is sent to a **hashed public key** (the Bitcoin address).

- The **actual public key is never exposed** because it is the Bitcoin Adress who addresses the Public Key which never reveals the creation of a public key by a spend

- Bitcoin uses **Pay-to-Public-Key-Hash (P2PKH)** or newer methods like **Pay-to-Witness-Public-Key-Hash (P2WPKH)**, which add extra layers of security.

### 🕵️♂️ 2.1 The Public Key Never Appears

- When you **send Bitcoin**, your wallet creates a **digital signature**.

- This signature uses the **private key** to **prove** ownership.

- The **Bitcoin address is revealed and creates the Public Key**

- The public key **remains hidden inside the Bitcoin script and Merkle tree**.

This means: ✔ **The public key is never exposed.** ✔ **Quantum attackers have nothing to target, attacking a Bitcoin Address is a zero value game.**

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

### 🔄 3. Bitcoin Can Upgrade

Even if quantum computers **eventually** become a real threat:

- Bitcoin developers can **upgrade to quantum-safe cryptography** (e.g., lattice-based cryptography or post-quantum signatures like Dilithium).

- Bitcoin’s decentralized nature ensures a network-wide **soft fork or hard fork** could transition to quantum-resistant keys.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

### ⏳ 4. The 10-Minute Block Rule as a Security Feature

- Bitcoin’s network operates on a **10-minute block interval**, meaning:Even if an attacker had immense computational power (like a quantum computer), they could only attempt an attack **every 10 minutes**.Unlike traditional encryption, where a hacker could continuously brute-force keys, Bitcoin’s system **resets the challenge with every new block**.This **limits the window of opportunity** for quantum attacks.

---

### 🎯 5. Quantum Attack Needs to Solve a Block in Real-Time

- A quantum attacker **must solve the cryptographic puzzle (Proof of Work) in under 10 minutes**.

- The problem? **Any slight error changes the hash completely**, meaning:**If the quantum computer makes a mistake (even 0.0001% probability), the entire attack fails**.**Quantum decoherence** (loss of qubit stability) makes error correction a massive challenge.The computational cost of **recovering from an incorrect hash** is still incredibly high.

---

### ⚡ 6. Network Resilience – Even if a Block Is Hacked

- Even if a quantum computer **somehow** solved a block instantly:The network would **quickly recognize and reject invalid transactions**.Other miners would **continue mining** under normal cryptographic rules.**51% Attack?** The attacker would need to consistently beat the **entire Bitcoin network**, which is **not sustainable**.

---

### 🔄 7. The Logarithmic Difficulty Adjustment Neutralizes Threats

- Bitcoin adjusts mining difficulty every **2016 blocks (\~2 weeks)**.

- If quantum miners appeared and suddenly started solving blocks too quickly, **the difficulty would adjust upward**, making attacks significantly harder.

- This **self-correcting mechanism** ensures that even quantum computers wouldn't easily overpower the network.

---

### 🔥 Final Verdict: Quantum Computers Are Too Slow for Bitcoin

✔ **The 10-minute rule limits attack frequency** – quantum computers can’t keep up.

✔ **Any slight miscalculation ruins the attack**, resetting all progress.

✔ **Bitcoin’s difficulty adjustment would react, neutralizing quantum advantages**.

**Even if quantum computers reach their theoretical potential, Bitcoin’s game theory and design make it incredibly resistant.** 🚀

19\. März 2025

### 🔐 1. SHA-256 is Quantum-Resistant

Bitcoin’s **proof-of-work** mechanism relies on SHA-256, a hashing algorithm. Even with a powerful quantum computer, **SHA-256 remains secure** because:

- Quantum computers excel at **factoring large numbers** (Shor’s Algorithm).

- However, **SHA-256 is a one-way function**, meaning there's no known quantum algorithm that can efficiently reverse it.

- **Grover’s Algorithm** (which theoretically speeds up brute force attacks) would still require **2¹²⁸ operations** to break SHA-256 – far beyond practical reach.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

### 🔑 2. Public Key Vulnerability – But Only If You Reuse Addresses

Bitcoin uses **Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm (ECDSA)** to generate keys.

- A quantum computer could use **Shor’s Algorithm** to break **SECP256K1**, the curve Bitcoin uses.

- If you never reuse addresses, it is an additional security element

- 🔑 1. Bitcoin Addresses Are NOT Public Keys

Many people assume a **Bitcoin address** is the public key—**this is wrong**.

- When you **receive Bitcoin**, it is sent to a **hashed public key** (the Bitcoin address).

- The **actual public key is never exposed** because it is the Bitcoin Adress who addresses the Public Key which never reveals the creation of a public key by a spend

- Bitcoin uses **Pay-to-Public-Key-Hash (P2PKH)** or newer methods like **Pay-to-Witness-Public-Key-Hash (P2WPKH)**, which add extra layers of security.

### 🕵️♂️ 2.1 The Public Key Never Appears

- When you **send Bitcoin**, your wallet creates a **digital signature**.

- This signature uses the **private key** to **prove** ownership.

- The **Bitcoin address is revealed and creates the Public Key**

- The public key **remains hidden inside the Bitcoin script and Merkle tree**.

This means: ✔ **The public key is never exposed.** ✔ **Quantum attackers have nothing to target, attacking a Bitcoin Address is a zero value game.**

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

### 🔄 3. Bitcoin Can Upgrade

Even if quantum computers **eventually** become a real threat:

- Bitcoin developers can **upgrade to quantum-safe cryptography** (e.g., lattice-based cryptography or post-quantum signatures like Dilithium).

- Bitcoin’s decentralized nature ensures a network-wide **soft fork or hard fork** could transition to quantum-resistant keys.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

### ⏳ 4. The 10-Minute Block Rule as a Security Feature

- Bitcoin’s network operates on a **10-minute block interval**, meaning:Even if an attacker had immense computational power (like a quantum computer), they could only attempt an attack **every 10 minutes**.Unlike traditional encryption, where a hacker could continuously brute-force keys, Bitcoin’s system **resets the challenge with every new block**.This **limits the window of opportunity** for quantum attacks.

---

### 🎯 5. Quantum Attack Needs to Solve a Block in Real-Time

- A quantum attacker **must solve the cryptographic puzzle (Proof of Work) in under 10 minutes**.

- The problem? **Any slight error changes the hash completely**, meaning:**If the quantum computer makes a mistake (even 0.0001% probability), the entire attack fails**.**Quantum decoherence** (loss of qubit stability) makes error correction a massive challenge.The computational cost of **recovering from an incorrect hash** is still incredibly high.

---

### ⚡ 6. Network Resilience – Even if a Block Is Hacked

- Even if a quantum computer **somehow** solved a block instantly:The network would **quickly recognize and reject invalid transactions**.Other miners would **continue mining** under normal cryptographic rules.**51% Attack?** The attacker would need to consistently beat the **entire Bitcoin network**, which is **not sustainable**.

---

### 🔄 7. The Logarithmic Difficulty Adjustment Neutralizes Threats

- Bitcoin adjusts mining difficulty every **2016 blocks (\~2 weeks)**.

- If quantum miners appeared and suddenly started solving blocks too quickly, **the difficulty would adjust upward**, making attacks significantly harder.

- This **self-correcting mechanism** ensures that even quantum computers wouldn't easily overpower the network.

---

### 🔥 Final Verdict: Quantum Computers Are Too Slow for Bitcoin

✔ **The 10-minute rule limits attack frequency** – quantum computers can’t keep up.

✔ **Any slight miscalculation ruins the attack**, resetting all progress.

✔ **Bitcoin’s difficulty adjustment would react, neutralizing quantum advantages**.

**Even if quantum computers reach their theoretical potential, Bitcoin’s game theory and design make it incredibly resistant.** 🚀