me: I challenge everyone here to go one day without talking about bitcoin.

nostr: 🦗🦗

If anyone needs any design feedback, let me know. Happy to record raw thoughts for you.

I think i know how to build a nest that would scale to tens of thousands of listeners… i just need to do it now.

I already run the Ross Exchange and exchange fiat to btc and btc to fiat for both of them.

😂 I sold the fight by my son paying my daughter in cash, she gave me the cash, then I paid her the sats. Now I have $5 of fiat 😭

My kids are fighting right now because my son owes my daughter $5. She wants it in bitcoin and he wants to pay her in fiat because he doesn't want to part with his bitcoin 😂😂😂

a kind on each tag?? why?

no, I was just thinking literally a `k` tag so that I can do

`{"kinds": [30001], "#k": ["9802"]}`

to get a lists that claim to have 9802 kinds tagged

but now that I type it I don't like it and now I think I should just use a specific kind number for 9802 events (39802? 🤷‍♂️)

give a hug to your local HVAC repairman. we need it nostr:note1nznfpelzl3q75pwqpgz7vk8k7fylcgwv3mcvqyfr08n9y876m2zsrs0mh7

Let's all get together and have a nostr night!

He's annoyed that we can't get 1 sat out of Wallet of Satoshi. He's like dad that's going to be worth a dollar someday, we need to get it out of there.

I mean yeah, if I want it to be mid.

if you're adding NIP-33 events to your list at least you know the event kind without fetching it, to me the `k` tag is useful to find those lists.

I'm still curious about the markets, do you have a real world example of what you're using them/want to use them for?

I like them when they make sense which might not be very often; it seems like if you’re relying on markers for something too complex you’re probably masquerading upstream complexity which should be solved differently

So I guess I don’t like markers for this case? I dunno, sounds like I talked myself out of it

Maybe show an example of where you want them?

In your own app it's easier than that since you already know what kind you want to get back from relays.

If you're going to be loading kind 3000x lists then the kind would be helpful because you'd want to have a way to go through the user's lists and only show the ones that are related to the game rather than mute lists for instance.

This came up in a NIP PR a month or so ago about emoji lists. There was some discussion about whether it's better to create new list kinds for specific types of items. Right now we have 30000 and 30001 which are supposed to be for people and "bookmarks" respectively but, in reality, people often mix kinds of things that they put into lists.