Profit motive influences the profiteer to innovate new ways of extracting value from the rest of us, this results in monopoly and empire as explained in "Imperialism - The highest stage of capitalism" by Lenin. The current system of motivation is the threat being left without a wage, the money is artificially restricting access to abundant resources like land and bread, yes there is enough for everyone. This threat, of unemployment, is terrorizing people to work. We still need to work to create things, use value. We do not need money, exchange value. Proletarians work hard and the Bourgeois get fat by virtue of ownership, which is enforced with violence.
Atlas Shrugged is a fiction novel.
i'm switching to a list its easier.
-Whats motivating us now is a threat by capital owners.
-We should help people when they need it.
-"Ayn Rand says communism was bad" o.k.
-All value is created from labour. A few people cannot be allowed to claim the worlds resources while the rest us suffer. That fish still exist without the claim on it placed by the person I am happily "stealing" from. The fish are there, in the river, you can just take them.
-The Soviet Union had the highest rate of economic growth in the 20th century. China is doing great. These places were made poor by outside forces and clawed there own lands back from the thieves. South Africa is still poor, and they have not had a communist revolution.
-The word "dictatorship" just refers to who "dictates" what the rules are. There are rich people making the rules now, we need the workers to make the rules and thus "dictatorship of the proletariat".
ok, this part got out of hand
-Individual morality doesn't matter. This is about economics. If your boss is a swell fella it doesn't change the dynamic of wage labour. There are "honest" and "good" people that exist in systems that do not output honesty and goodness.
-Meritocracy is a falsehood. Rich people are not deserved of their power, no individual is. And start looking into any rich person you will see that they have stolen from others. Please learn about the history of Colonialism, it's important.
-A boss pays you a wage because they can make more than what they are paying you, this is profit. "Value for Value" your either a fool being played, or a devil doing the playing.
-The needy will have no problem finding people who help them? Then why do we have needy? The homeless, hungry, and poor. From what you've told me it's because they aren't "really needy" but I'm telling you they can achieve, they are oppressed by the way we have been structuring the economy. At worst your passing judgement on who is "moral" or just. At best you understand nothing about the world you inhabit.
These are problems that need to be fixed and Communist theory both explains what is happening in a scientific and immutable way and drafts solutions to try with examples of what has worked. This is why I am here to ask you to read about Communism and help me fix the problems. You should understand Communism before you embarrass yourself as you have here.
It's private property.
If your renting it out is it yours?
The scheme of renting your phone out requires it to be written somewhere that you own the thing, like in a legal system. If I stop paying rent and keep the phone you have to get police to enforce (with violence) your claim to the phone, like an eviction. I don't think this scheme should be legal, and what we are talking about exists with debt. Lot's of people buy phones on a payment plan, or you can think of a car note. How would people get phones? That would be decided by the workers together, people make those phones and it's a violent and bloody process. We need to be set free, not enslaved in rent and wage labour.
If you don't want to engage in the study all you need to know is we want to remove the profit motive and organize production to be controlled by the people producing.
Seize the means of production.
To each according to their need and from each according to their ability.
Dictatorship of the proletariat.
These are common slogans if you prefer a shorter answer. You should still learn words, over here asking me about "oBjeCtiVisM" and you don't want to engage with jargon.
how you delete posts in mod queue you dont want up?
is it possible??
After world war two a pastor wrote this poem.
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First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
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There are events in the past that we can study, and some very relevant contemporary situations, plural, that contain an element of mass deportation and imprisonment. It's bad, but I don't think I have any chance of explaining it to the person I'm replying to.
The use of "Malthusian" demonstrates that you do not know what that word means.
Shit is not free, you have to eat something before you shit.
It is important to understand the difference between personal and private property. Your personal property includes things like your phone, your car, the house that you live in. There is no justification for taking personal property, that's theft. Private property includes things that have a claim on them and are used to seek rent. I wrote my name on the deed to the land, therefore I am entitled (a deed is also referred to a title) to extract, even to the detriment of society. Consider a forest or a mine, these lands are to be help in common for the benefit of all. How will we manage the land? Robust democracy must replace the dictatorship of the landlord. Land was never owned until people started writing up papers and enforcing the claim with violence.
Dialectics is the process in which a thesis comes in contact with an antithesis. These two entities are negated and the result is an entirely new thesis with elements of both the previous thesis and antithesis. This just keeps happening over and over again, the theories develop indefinitely. You call Communism dead before you even understood the concept. By the way it just changed again, try to keep up.
It's important to set a desired outcome before you decide if anything functions properly. Does my hammer help with harvest? No, for that you use a scythe, but the hammer will crush rocks in the field to make way for sowing.
Under the worldview of Dialectical Materialism I believe in objective reality in opposition to Machists.
And to respond to each of you bullet points
- Scientific Socialism is quintessential to Marxism. Making something up without a process behind it is not Marxist, there is a lot to it, but yes there must be analysis and not just feelings.
- All value is created from labour, we do not labour to achieve an abstract purpose such as salvation. Our labour produces things that we need and use. Being productive is not a value in and of itself, you produce to create useful value and a portion of that value is being taken from workers when they exchange their labour for a wage. It's the value that's valuable, not the productivity.
- This makes no sense and with time I hope you will see how ridiculous this looks. How can you maintain Objectivism, in a world of objects that surely exist objectively and not abstractly, and subscribe to a truthful fulfillment. This is the ideal, for an Idealist, not objective.
- Same as above point, sounds selfish.
- Individuality aside, as there is no inherent prosperity in that, all value is created from labour. Exchange does not create useful value, that you can use. I buy a tool for one unit, sell it at two units, how many tools are there in this economy? Can I take my two units and buy two tools? Yes, if somebody labours to create the tools, otherwise they do not exist. A tool can generate use value in the process of production.
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