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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." -Henry Ford

🤣 y u mad bro?

It's not me you'll have to answer to, I'm just the messenger 🤷🏼‍♂️

I'm not the one making crazy impossible claims. You share your evidence first. You just threw a bunch of stuff at the wall, then completely avoided acknowledging when I pointed out it's nonsense.

So why did "evolution" put the testicles between the legs instead of inside the rib cage, if that would be so much better? You made the claim that evolution is not coincidence, so what's the mechanism? You can't simultaneously claim that "evolution" can somehow create incredible functional complexity, yet somehow fail to correct what you claim to be obvious flaws, but also not function through the mechanism of random coincidence.

Anyone with common sense can look at the incredibly complex design of life and see it took intelligence to create that. And the more scientists study and learn, the more that's confirmed. If you're making a claim to the contrary, the burden of proof is on you to show how all the scientific principles and observable evidence are invalid in the origin of life.

Of course not, you haven't answered any of my questions. If I wanted to talk to evasive clowns that never give a straight answer I'd be in politics

Verifiably true? 🤣

If evolution works, what's the mechanism evolution used to produce the human body? And evolution being what you claim it is, if a robot hand like the left was found floating in space out between Jupiter and Saturn, would you insist it was formed by the force of evolution?

"Came into existence" implies time and the physical universe we can observe. God exists outside both of those parameters, so it's a nonsensical question. Trying to insinuate that it's crazy to believe in eternal God while you believe in eternal matter isn't very convincing.

But good effort at deflection instead of addressing any of my responses to your own claims.

Yes, besides that, the first human body specifically.

If you don't know, how do you intend to have a deep discussion about it?

A chimp skeleton would make my point just as well as a human one. A chimp is complex and impossible to explain with coincidental natural processes, just like a human. It's also not a human and will never be one, and humans are not chimps and never were.

You might be confused about your ancestry, but I'm not. You and I share a common ancestor, but it wasn't millions of years ago, our ancestor wasn't also an ancestor to apes, and coincidence had nothing to do with how we got here.

I'm not aware of any ways an object can form beyond coincidence or intelligent action. Seems like you're just attempting to redefine evolution as something other than coincidence, without any factual basis for doing so. If evolution is not coincidence, what is the mechanism it allegedly uses? How does the data in the DNA arise?

If having testicles between your legs is so stupid, why doesn't evolution create sperm to be resilient to higher temperature? How does it decide to put testicles stupidly outside the body to protect them from heat, instead of in the rib cage but with more hardy and resilient sperm? Are you claiming it just happened that way? Like it was just a coincidence? 🤔

Blind mole rats with eyes and flightless birds with wings show a loss of function, not a gain. Strange choice of an example to support the theory of evolution since it seems to be going the wrong direction. Or are we supposed to believe they're in the process of evolving eyes and wings but aren't quite there yet? If so, I'd love to know the mechanism that selects for genes to make an eye that can't see and wings that can't fly within the process of "evolving" functional organs.

Hopefully the laryngeal nerve doesn't end up like the appendix or the 100 other alleged "vestigial organs" we later discovered the function of. Would be awkward if "by far the greatest evidence" turned out to be yet another complex creation whose function we don't even understand.

We can't discuss it in depth if you don't answer my questions. Are you an atheist? How do you believe the human body came into existence? Your first reply was incoherent. Intelligent design is our ability to adapt to change? You're just redefining a term in a way that makes no sense. But using your definition, why are humans able to adapt to change and not robots? What's the difference?

Never forget, atheism requires far more faith than humbly believing God's Word

Imagine legitimizing the least bad thief every election cycle for decades and complaining that everything keeps getting worse 🤡

Not nearly close enough. And we won't get there until something forces the HR harpies out of their fiat-enabled bubble and back into their God-given honorable role of creating and nurturing the next generation.

Gold has a monetary premium. So does real estate currently. That doesn't make real estate better money than gold since it has a bigger non-monetary use case. The best money is all monetary premium...

Wish I could say I've never actually seen anything this bad on a new house, but...

The fundamental totalitarian signal is in the first phrase; "anti-money laundering laws." Money laundering is a fake crime. If you steal from someone, that's immoral and should be illegal in any functional system of government.

What the thief does with the stolen money is not a separate crime. Entering into a consensual financial exchange with someone is not immoral and should not be illegal.

If someone committed a crime, prosecute the crime. Trying to prosecute an ordinary financial transaction on the basis of an actual crime that occurred is ridiculous and just an easy excuse for political persecution.

A lot of anti-money laundering lawfare is just an attempt to expand a government's control beyond their jurisdiction. So Iran has certain laws and policies in their country that the US government doesn't like. Obviously Iranian government policy is outside US government jurisdiction. Instead of accepting that fact like a rational person, the US says that, for example, US businesses can't sell Bitcoin to Iranian citizens because it "facilitates money laundering."

If the power-mad psychopaths in government would just accept their limitations instead of playing God and inventing fake crimes that serve no purpose except to control more and more people's behavior, this wouldn't even be an issue.

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Tools for Saving

stocks, bonds, metals, real estate

Even if you’ve figured out how to acquire a pile of money, keeping it takes work. Truly wealthy folks sometimes stop chasing more, but everyone wants their pile to at least hold its value over time. Whatever you can buy today, the thinking goes, you should be able to buy the same tomorrow as well as ten years on. Wealth should be saved energy — society's debt to you — not a leaky bucket.

Preserving Wealth

We buy assets hoping they'll rise in value, but at the same time inflation reduces the buying power of our dollars each year. We need more and more dollars just to stand still. There’s an illusion of “making money” when we see the prices of our assets go up. But we’re often just running on a treadmill, while staying in place. We can’t choose not to run or we’ll fall off the back and become poor again.

So we’re all out there buying assets trying to at least keep up with inflation. And the pricing of those assets ends up having two components: 1) utility value and 2) monetary premium. The utility is obvious for many of these. “I will buy real estate so I can live in this house”. That is utility. But also, you’ve probably heard the very common idea that houses “go up” in price over time. Since most people know (err… believe?) that houses always go up they are comfortable storing value in homes. If you expect the house will store value and you can retrieve that value 10-20 years later when you sell it you become very comfortable buying a “more expensive” house than you might if you were purchasing just for the utility value of the house. That “more expensive” component could be thought of as the monetary premium. That monetary premium in real estate is why you hear about foreign wealth parked in unused real estate in Vancouver, California, and New York. They don’t care at all about the utility value. They only care about the monetary premium because it helps them store value to retrieve in the future.

To beat inflation, people are constantly searching for things they predict that other people in the future will see as valuable. In economics this is called a Keynesian Beauty Contest. It exists across all assets. There is no absolute metric of value in our ever changing world. Some people think it sounds smart to say that something has “intrinsic value”, but there’s no such thing. All value is subjective. There’s just whatever we all get habituated to agree is “about right”. And those estimates of value can and do adapt over time. However, they do tend to be somewhat sticky. So they adapt slowly. Therefore, a lot of people think of pricing as somewhat “real” at any given time even though it’s constantly shifting underfoot.

Problems with Traditional Savings Tools

The value of each of stocks, bonds, metals, and real estate is subject to human decisions, risks, and corruptions. Boards/CEOs can make bad decisions about a business destroying the value of a stock while technologies and markets can shift further destroying value. Bonds can have more underlying risk — especially “tail risk” — than their pricing recognizes. If metals or other commodities get bid up to hold excess monetary premium then miners produce more which drives supply up bringing prices back down. Real estate is subject to property taxes where the rules can be changed by a new political regime and the property cannot relocate. All of our best tools for saving are subject to these problems.

Bitcoin’s properties, on the other hand, are not subject to human decisions (they were at the start, but we’re far enough along now that no individual nor even small groups can make meaningful unilateral changes on any important policies today). There’s no strategic blunders and no yield/risk to price. Excess mining capacity doesn’t increase supply. And unlike real estate, the taxation must be considered a “fair deal” by the owner who pays the tax since the property is not tied to any particular location and the holder has the option to exit and pay tax elsewhere where they consider the tax just. Bitcoin’s is a transparent set of rules run on open source software that anyone can voluntarily run and audit. The whole thing works because enough people choose to run the same open source software as each other. Neither Satoshi nor anyone else can show up and force people to change the software they choose to run.

Now bitcoin’s exchange rate to USD is entirely subject to human decisions at any given time, but the important properties of bitcoin's monetary policy and scarcity are due to math, cryptography, and social consensus. If everyone decided bitcoin is worth nothing then it would be worth nothing. But it has this special property of digital scarcity that never existed before and despite 10,000+ attempts has never been recreated after. And it’s easy to predict that if something uniquely demonstrates absolute scarcity and can be transmitted across electronic communication channels like the Internet that in the future other people will probably also value it. That’s why bitcoin might be the best tool for saving we’ve ever seen.

When you have monetary premiums in traditional stores of value the system continues despite the problems. But when an alternative comes along that doesn’t have those problems, the monetary premiums enjoyed by those assets that exhibit the problems would probably shift to the one without those problems. It won’t happen all at once. It might take a generation to fully play out.

But it’s relatively easy to predict that people will choose to store wealth in the form least subject to such human decisions, risks, and corruptions if such a thing were to exist.

And such a thing does exist. But it’s very early in its existence. So that repricing will only occur as more people learn about the special properties bitcoin has that no other asset in the world has. In the long run bitcoin reprices all of those other value stores into the neutral value store of its network.

Which is why it’s going up forever. It’s a much bigger deal than just “digital gold”. It’s the best tool for saving.

♾/21m

For more detail on the scale of these traditional large asset classes:

Stocks (Equities): Estimates vary, but the global stock market value could be somewhere in the ballpark of $100 trillion to $300 trillion.

Bonds: The global bond market is estimated to be around $125 trillion to $150 trillion.

Metals: The global gold market alone is estimated at around $10 trillion to $12 trillion.

Real Estate: A rough estimate puts the global real estate market above $325 trillion.

Summing up the total value of these assets is somewhere in the range of $500-$750 trillion. Which is roughly the scale of the market of tools for saving.

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