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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." -Henry Ford

Can civilization survive demographic collapse?

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https://x.com/signulll/status/1796577662506512889 finally they are getting humbled 🙌

Could we dare to hope that nature is starting to heal?

That's debatable. But even if it were true, how effective is a morality with no weight other than an individual's personal opinion? How would you cross the can/should gap and say, make a law or prosecute an evil act on the basis of a personal opinion? Is a morality effective when an evil person can eliminate the foundation of morality with a single bullet? Because history proves they won't hesitate to do exactly that.

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Bingo!

Yeah, when I first read the explanation of how long 52! seconds is, or how long it would take to get the same sequence if you shuffle the deck every second, it blew my mind.

"Set a timer to count down 52! seconds (that’s 8.0658×1067 seconds)

Stand on the equator, and take a step forward every billion years

When you’ve circled the earth once, take a drop of water from the Pacific Ocean, and keep going

When the Pacific Ocean is empty, lay a sheet of paper down, refill the ocean and carry on.

When your stack of paper reaches the sun, take a look at the timer.

The 3 left-most digits won’t have changed. 8.063×1067 seconds left to go. You have to repeat the whole process 1000 times to get 1/3 of the way through that time. 5.385×1067 seconds left to go.

So to kill that time you try something else.

Shuffle a deck of cards, deal yourself 5 cards every billion years

Each time you get a royal flush, buy a lottery ticket

Each time that ticket wins the jackpot, throw a grain of sand in the grand canyon

When the grand canyon’s full, take 1oz of rock off Mount Everest, empty the canyon and carry on.

When Everest has been leveled, check the timer.

There’s barely any change. 5.364×1067 seconds left. You’d have to repeat this process 256 times to have run out the timer."

Absolutely mind-bending. And that's just 52 playing cards.

You mean how people think a shuffled deck of cards is a random sequence, but if you just shuffle it enough times you'll get the same sequence again?

That's not wrong, and enjoying what you can while accepting what you can't control is a good strategy. The flip side is, that's probably the best strategy anyone can use from a materialist perspective. But in the end it still doesn't manage to provide real fulfillment and meaning in life.

An opinion doesn't provide the basis for an effective morality.

A mutation is disorder introduced into an already existing, orderly genetic sequence. It doesn't explain how the genetic information got there to begin with, and it's actually moving in the wrong direction, toward rather than away from disorder and death.

Over time, the complex patterns of living things invariably degenerate into the chaos and disorder of random chance. In no case does more time applied to inanimate objects cause them to somehow acquire information, become more complex, and make the transition from inanimate object to life. Yet we see life all around us. Where did it come from?

Imagine my surprise #memes

Kind of sticks a pin in the whole "goo to you" narrative doesn't it...

Solomon says something similar in the book of Ecclesiastes. But if you read the whole book, which you can because it's short, he's describing different stages of his life and all the things he tried to find meaning and satisfaction. Now being a king who was rich beyond belief and had hundreds of wives and concubines, he really did try everything lol. And in the end he didn't find satisfaction in all the hedonistic pleasure the world had to offer.

So that's at least one man's opinion on living a fulfilling life. For whatever it's worth.

Not thinking of this part I'm assuming?

Then he told them a story: “A rich man had a fertile farm that produced fine crops. He said to himself, ‘What should I do? I don’t have room for all my crops.’ Then he said, ‘I know! I’ll tear down my barns and build bigger ones. Then I’ll have room enough to store all my wheat and other goods. And I’ll sit back and say to myself, “My friend, you have enough stored away for years to come. Now take it easy! Eat, drink, and be merry!”’

“But God said to him, ‘You fool! You will die this very night. Then who will get everything you worked for?’

“Yes, a person is a fool to store up earthly wealth but not have a rich relationship with God.”

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Why do you have human flourishing as a goal?

This is not a new idea. In the Soviet gulags, the common thieves and criminals got preferential treatment and consideration, and in many cases were practically running the place. That's because they were considered "socially friendly elements", unlike the political prisoners who might get decades of forced labor on false accusations from a jealous neighbor or criticizing communism in a private letter.

The constant rewarding of thieves and looters while demonizing and persecuting political opponents shows that these people are just rebranded radical Marxist.

Because of people like this, the US becomes more like the Soviet Union every day.