Mmmh, the "Relay Sets" section got me thinking:

- Right now I feel like there are mostly two "kind" of relays: the ones you set which are used globally on the nostr ecosystem, like inbox, outbox, DMs etc.. (for which this relay management tool would be perfect) and then there are apps related relays, for example the ones you set on noStrudel or Amethyst just to download global stuff or find other nostr "data" and are not tied to the user per se.

- Is your idea of a relay managment tool only for the first "type" of relays (the user ones), or would you like to somehow manage all possible relays that an npub will ever come into contact with?

- So maybe we should ask: where is the line between these two types of relays? And should we expand on the gossip idea and have a set of relays for each "purpose" that could ever be possible in the nostr world (like inbox, outbox, DMs, blossom, search, index, video/stream, mls, etc...) that will be tied to the user and that each app must respect (so hypothetically no more app related relays, because every app would know which one is designed to be used for that user and scope)?

I don't know, maybe I am just over my head here, but I feel like we are going towards too much caos on the relay side, and I am ok with custom options, wierd clients and freedom of choice/implementation obviously, but maybe we also need stronger standards/defaults for this. Then this relay management tool can really be effective I think and make sense overall.

Is this actually interoperable with #whitenoise ? I tried to login with the same nsec and add at least one of the 3 relay whitenoise sets up as default as a circle relay, and I can see the same contact I have on whitenoise, but when I try to start a chat with it it does not work.

Isn't using nostr supposed to enable interoperability between clients by default, what's the point if the other npub needs to have the same client?

I hope I am just doing something wrong, or maybe juat too ealry given we are in alpha/beta.

Not yet, as far as I know

Ehi nostr:nprofile1qqs8t4ehcdrjgugzn3zgw6enp53gg2y2gfmekkg69m2d4gwxcpl04acppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp07rhc3q what happens if I login with the same nsec on two different devices?

Will I be able to see the messages I write on one device only on that device? Will I have the same chats list on boh of them or will I see all the "activity" done on one device only on that device? Meaning the profile is the same, but the history separated?

Yeah I was wondering for people using obtainium, but I see now there is the certificate hash on zapstore, so really cool.

What about those downloading the apk that want to also verify the signing of the apk?

This is what I see from AppVerifier: org.parres.whitenoise

25:E5:78:6A:94:ED:6D:BD:73:4E:0C:AF:ED:CC:91:09:F1:09:BC:0B:A5:E1:9A:FD:5F:02:87:85:55:4E:C2:F8

Ehi nostr:nprofile1qqspwwwexlwgcrrnwz4zwkze8rq3ncjug8mvgsd96dxx6wzs8ccndmcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgcwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmqpzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2uctyqxu5, wanted to ask what is the progress with the whitenoise app? Is it on full dev mode or are you planning for a release soon?

Why not just a set of read/search/discovery relays that will be saved only as "app" relays and not tied to your outbox model? Like many other apps do.

Whatabourt tcp/connection overhead?

Yeah it seems you can only set them as inbox, outbox and/or DMs, but not as only read/discovery/search as you can in nostrudel or gossip. The result for me is that the feed is really "unstable", if I reload the page it keeps giving me posts in different orders and most of the times some are missing, and even if I select replies for the feed, sometimes I dont see posts I should see and I need to disable and reenable the replies button (not 100% sure this solves the "problem"). I tried a lot of clients, but for me only nostrudel and gossip displays all the events, but I am not sure this is only related to relays management. Coracle UI is super cool though.

NIP-60 wallet or not?

Hey nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgewaehxw309a5xyu3wvdhhyctrd3jjuum0vd5kzmp0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uqzp978pfzrv6n9xhq5tvenl9e74pklmskh4xw6vxxyp3j8qkke3cez89pzj9 I am trying Coracle and I was wondering how the "Other Relays" section works: if I add one, will it be an "app" relay only used to search/download stuff or will it be added as part of my inbox/outbox relays?

So Pewdiepie recently made a video about degoogling, privacy, grapheneos and self hosting, what timeline is this?! 🤣

Next time he is gonna talk about Nostr and making his own youtube streaming app and I am gonna lose my mind.

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z It has been a while since the last amethyst release, is something big in development? Is there a reason? 👀

On cashu.me I mean

When tokens on nostr? wink wink

Is that windows vista for apple?

I don't see anything to be happy for, not until they release the source code of the app to actually see whether the encryption in end to end and on devicr, which we know will never happen.

Curious how grapheneos will tackle these features.

Wait, do you mean a multi-hop vpn, or actually multiple vpns/tunnels used at the same time (maybe you can decide which app uses which or based on AllowedIP like in wireguard)?

What about totalsportek.pro ?