? MicroG is optional. GrapheneOS has optional google services.

MicroG has various levels of pinging google servers you can toggle on or off.

GrapheneOS, CalyxOS are two great alternatives that exist and work today. There are others but IMO these two are the best.

GrapheneOS, CalyxOS are two great alternatives that exist and work today. There are others but IMO these two are the best.

Bitcoiner’s Bitching and moaning about woke gate kept digital walled garden eco systems and content platforms not playing fair and nice?

Its the same as bitching and moaning about fiat monetary policy and it’s gatekeepers not being fair and nice.

Wtf did you all do about the latter? Quit asking for permission and OPT OUT for the Freedom tech alternatives that exist today!

I suppose I am conflating precise and accurate.

There is. Precise thinking does not instantly reveal the truth, it just makes your assumptions and possibilities explicit.

For example see Hanson's The age of em, or Grabby aliens. Both talk about hypothetical futures, but all the assumptions are known and you can judge if they are plausible and thus judge if the idea is good.

Sloppy thinking is babbling associations and archetypal ideas, without the way to judge it.

True, but again - even this pushes some people forward. People see value in that.

I've had a conversation about sloppy thinking with my favorite current thinker Robin Hanson. He says that many people do sloppy thinking and he likes precise thinking. There's a lack of it in this world, but it's hard to recognize and even spread.

We are used to read short "tweet" sized bites, shorten complex topics in "ted talks", reels and short videos. When you write a well argued 50 page blog, no one reads it.

So in this world, sloppy thinking can deliver value in the same way that tarot cards (a random number generator) can just take you out of the idea loop you're stuck in. In this regard, it's more valuable that it's different than what people are stuck with than a real intellectual quality.

And then there is the issue with Google forcing devs to use their APIs for push notifications for example.

And they have good excuses for both but these excuses assume that Google never is evil and is available for all Android users.

GrapheneOS has addressed this and called microG out. But still they are uses Google hardware and firmware. As far as I know, no devices can be trusted, even with the most privacy focussed OS running on them.

“Surprisingly, the deGoogled phone's first connection is to google.com. According to Google, the host android.clients.google.com serves the Google Play Store for periodical device registration, location, search for apps and many other functions. This is strange because we have a deGoogled phone without the Google Play Store. Later we found out that this request originates from microG, an open source re-implementation of Google's proprietary core libraries and applications.

Then it connects to connectivity.ecloud.global which, according to /e/OS, replaces Android's Google server connectivity check connectivitycheck.gstatic.com.

…

“

Uses closed source firmware blobs. Could be a honey trap.

Samsungs bloatware was the worst.

Might fuck around with GrapheneOS.

Yeah, I agree but I guess I should add that I think his thinking is not just uninteresting, I think it’s also sloppy which is the worst kind of thinking, since it feels productive but it takes you nowhere

Android is open-source.

Not until bitcoin can actually support hyperbitcoinisation. Otherwise that would be a huge swing and a miss.