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I have a reminder set to buy two Msat (2 million sats) every 2 weeks… not happening today 😭

It just hit me that a million sats is $920 😭 it feels like yesterday it was $580

Honestly wouldn’t be shocked within 4 hours

Wait are we actually getting $100k before the end of the year?

In the absence of law, why would exchanges do KYC? Is your grandmother staring at the ledger all day? Obviously a public ledger is very different from a glass house.

And why wouldn’t you want your grandmother to know you bought drugs? Because it is shameful. This is exactly my point. A public ledger could discourage shameful activity.

Even if you don’t want someone to know something, if they are doing chain analysis and stalking your transactions, you could use LN and basically completely prevent them from know what you bought.

The major benefit of a public ledger is that it can be audited. A public ledger would prevent shady deals between business and government. Monero would only make those deals easier. Privacy has a place but so does transparency.

Ay fuck the RSI 🤣

I’m genuinely asking. How do they know who I am if they don’t work at Coinbase or the government?

Who is watching? Do the people watching have access to my KYC details? Coinbase would have to dox my wallet for anyone to know.

How many people are watching the ledger? What if I use LN?

No it isn’t my whole argument. My main objection of Monero would be that tail emissions are the wrong solution to incentivize mining.

What I’m arguing here is that the main feature of Monero, privacy, is completely unnecessary for 99.9% of people. It is realistically only useful under tyranny. In the absence of tyranny, absolute obscurity is unnecessary.

Bitcoin is more like a public street than a transparent house.

Monero is like a house with boarded up windows having a tunnel system attached to it.

I am not. I am saying that a transparent currency would discourage these types of purchases. Monero makes the purchase of such things significantly less risky.

I do not see a benefit in such thorough privacy. Bitcoin was literally designed to be transparent, and there are many benefits to that.

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OK so you don't understand. Its not about supporting miners. I mean kind of, but not really. It's about what miners are, and who receives the benefit of their service and who pays for it.

Youre right, a capped supply supports holders. But who pays for securing the network? The people moving it, spending it, using it. Holders get their wealth secured, which is the only reason the bitcoin itself has value, that it is secure, a currency that can disappear in the night is worthless no matter how few there are in the world, without having to cover the cost of the security they receive, their cost is subsidized by daily users. In game theory we call this the free rider problem, something everyone benefits from but only a subset pays for. The game theory in systems like this is that everyone tries to become one of the people that doesn't pay and then eventually there's not enough people paying for the thing to keep existing to benefit people. There is no other outcome.

So there's an incentive in bitcoin to not spend, to only hodl. But if people don't spend, security goes down. And I've already establishes that security is the primary sales pitch that bitcoin offers. So ultimately, bitcoin's value is only its security level, and it's security is covered by a decreasing percentage of the userbase. This means security *must* decrease beyond some point, whicheans the value must decrease, which means the price must decrease.

So, how do you resolve this free rider problem, and get everyone to cover the cost of securing their assets without one person having an outsized unfair cost of doing so, without tinkering with peoples funds and having the the cost apply proportional to the benefit they receive? Well, the answer is of course, an emission. I can go into the different emission schemes with different benefits and problems, but those are kind of out of scope, if you're interested I'll go into it. Suffice to say, a capped supply coin, any capped supply coin, no matter what, will suffer from the free rider problem and eventually go to 0.

Why do you think transaction fees are not enough? I’ve never had any reason to avoid transaction fees. Won’t mining bitcoin become cheaper as energy becomes cheaper?