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ThyLobster
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Coder by day. Libertarian (it seems).

Boa. Agora faz o setup da sua carteira de lightning pra poder receber.

nostr:nprofile1qqst94nsmefmya53crp5qq39kewrtgndqcynhnzp7j8lcu0qjple6jspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgcwaehxw309ahx7um5wghxvmt59emkj73wvf5h5tcmtt3va please help me understand from your point of view - can't government ban Tor? The entry nodes are known, so from the gov perspective they know you are connecting to tor. Once they know that, they will be knocking on your door.

Even if you connect via VPN, the gov will know you just connected to a VPN service and they will be knocking on your door again.

What am I missing?

It's not about banning! It's about making it illegal and fining/jailing you!

That's the game.

They are not gonna ban anything.

They are gonna jail a few and scare everyone else into submission.

Noone is banning WhatsApp nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcscpyug! That's the whole point! WhatsApp is their main data mining tool!

They are evil, not stupid!

Not for long. Shit is falling apart everywhere.

It's just another click, but ultimately it doesn't help much I think.

You --} ISP --} tor --} exit --} Nostr relay

OR

You --} ISP --} VPN --} tor --} exit --} Nostr relay

VPNs have even more popular IPs. Especially if you use Nord or express.

Sounds like a big red flag in the VPN/ISP/DNS/Government log.

Is there any real way to privacy/anonymity?

Nostr wins when there's a bunch of north-koreans and other hostages connecting.

Until then, freedom is just a dream in the mind of the few not yet quashed.

That's not how governments act.

They let you connect, create a log of 100 of us, go to their homes in the middle of the night, arrest you in front of your family, call all TV stations, radios, even live stream your trial and do as much advertising as possible and scare as many people as possible.

That's how they do it.

And it works.

Replying to Avatar ODELL

Oh wow. This one looks great.

But I really would like a technical answer!

Tor and Nostr have known addresses.

It's not that hard!

This is exactly right.

I just posted this to Odell.

The only solution is to decentralise the network provision itself. If we become the isp, the DNS, the server and the user... Then maybe we stand a chance.

Today I realised Nostr won't be the solution.

It's too simple to criminalise tor.

It's too simple to make it illegal for anyone to connect to any known relay. With or without tor.

Your ISP knows you are connecting to tor. They don't need to know what you post. They just need to start arresting a few users.

It's just too easy to stop everyone and it's even easier for users to make mistakes.

I'm in the UK. This place will soon turn into "that place". We don't have much time left.

Please change my mind.

nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgmwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxy6t5vdhkjmnsv9exktnrdaksz8rhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekh2arfdeuhwctvd3jhgtnrdaks9hhj2c? - you are my go-to person for questions of this type.

Would it not be dangerous to run a relay in the UK or in Europe?

If we achieve critical mass, would it not be easy enough for the governments to come after relays?

I mean... If I use my own relay, would that not be mitigated?