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Karl
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Bitcoin or slavery | Carnivore | Chest day addict | Live free or die | Dark tetrad Shadowy super coder Cabal boiling the oceans | Father | Husband | GFY
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hot take: I get that custodial lightning is not remotely decentralized, sovereign, trustless, etc. - all that good shit …

… but is nobody else outrageously excited by how much of an improvement over fiat it is? not just in its own right but even explicitly in terms of decentralisation, sovereignty, and trustlessness?

it strikes me as a key vector of bitcoin driving jurisdictional arbitrage, for one. say some authoritarian regime cracks down on bitcoin (whatever that ends up meaning in practice, doesn’t really matter) and makes it politically risky to run a node, or manage liquidity, or be seen as “transmitting money”, or whatever. if there is a trustworthy custodial lightning provider *literally anywhere in the world* you can anonymously spin up the ability to receive payments in seconds. “anonymously” and “in seconds” are both groundbreaking advances if you have any familiarity whatsoever with fiat banking and payment rails.

if you think about it, you actually can’t get this with “real” lightning either. it’s not instant (to set up) and you need to know people who presumably trust you to some small extent to get to the point of workable liquidity and stay there (perhaps under-discussed, but if channel partners “don’t trust you”, they will close or never open, and you can’t use lightning at all. WhO’s TrUsTlEsS nOw HuH?!?)

so yes, this requires trust, but like, fuck me, so does everything in real life 😂 - being overly negative on this strikes me as a kind of core fallacy of appreciating open and decentralized systems: that it’s a spectrum, not a binary. how open and decentralized the foundation is represents the maximum openness and decentralisation of anything built on top, *not the minimum*!

moving away from completely closed and centralised does not necessitate the opposite, it opens up an entire range of new possibilities, all of which come with tradeoffs. but tradeoffs are relative to circumstances in real life, and in real life, selective trust is very much a thing because We LiVe In A sOcIeTy 🤪 - talking about tradeoffs in absolute terms as if the decision to accept them can be made entirely devoid of context is highly regarded. and this isn’t even to get into the rather obvious line of argument that if you want people to ever get to the extreme, having a spectrum to gradually move along is far more appealing than requiring them to jump in at the deep end. i.e. it’s also amazing for adoption.

in conclusion, don’t be highly regarded. support adoption. agree with my hot take. gm, pv 🤙

Is it really a hot take? From my understanding the consent was always, Store your wealth on chain and keep only on Lightning whatever you would keep in your (cash)Wallet. No pain for me to hold a couple hundred bucks on a custodial LN Wallet.

😂 I cant even identify what he is trying to achieve here beside exhausting himself by breaking the tower

Its time for a 2 hour escape from Nostrville. LFG

Cant see it often enough.

Peter Praet, Chief Economist at the ECB, trying to explain how money is made.

Opt out of their shitshow #Bitcoin

https://media.nostrgram.co/v/fb/media_fbf5b61407046.mp4

Sure 😂 I´m really not worried about the European bureaucrats. They are so damn incompetent that they will never hinder us in any way shape or form.

Ok whats the plan here? Shut down all terrestrial Internet connections and only enable a internet connection over starlink after full KYC? Creating a censored and fully monitored version of the web?

How high are the odds that they will try to perform such a move and how fast will we circumvent their stupidity?

https://media.nostrgram.co/v/18/media_186a699ef6046.mp4

They still don't get it.

Good morning plebs. The corn sitting in deep frozen cold storages not moving at all reached a new ATH. Greshams law brings the heat.

I use Bitcoin because they fucked up our money without my consent and this time they will fuck around, they will find out.

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Dismissing Bitcoin in 2011 after mining a block... everyone pays the price for their ignorance.

I've heard Twitter is dying. Funny how the plebs managed to escape 2-3 months before this happened and issued the blue bird to share their npubs ^^ there are no coincidences

To all the degen gamblers out there. If you want to satisfy your gambling addiction without losing big, try LN Markets. Login with your LN Wallet, deposit some sats and play a game.

Have seen some bear traders today on here and they will get rekt big time. Playing with small sats could save you some pain.(Not gambling would do the trick even better)

Most fascinating about it, there are some nodes in unreal remote regions of the world. Who ever you are out there in your citadel, thank you.

Totally correct. Managing liquidity have to become much much easier for non IT people to run their own LN Node. Will come in due time.

Public Lightning Nodes map... enjoy the beauty.

A blast from the past. Last cycle everyone was talking about the super cycle and no bear and so on. "This time its different" will occur some day but now is not the time in my opinion. I was bullish on Bitcoin at 6k at 3.5k at 69k and at 16k. I´m a perma bull but even I don't think the fiat fuckery will end anytime soon. We have at least a decade watching how they kick the can down the road ahead of us. If I´m wrong, so be it but I prefer being humble and get surprised positively if things play out faster than I predict.

Good morning and PV lovely orange people.

Enjoy your Sunday with your families and create some enjoyable memories.

Pura Vida and good morning !

TGIF for all of you still in the Fiat mines.

Looking forward to all the retirement announcements of the class of 2016/17/18 plebs after next halving. LFG

In Europe I would recommend Relai. Cant talk for other continents.

As I dump all remaining fiat into Bitcoin at the end of every month there is not really sideline fiat. I hold a small cash reserve for urgent cases to not have to sell any Bitcoin but besides that, I do not see any point in holding this crap.

Limit orders imply that you have fiat on shitcoin casinos which is nothing I would recommend.

Set an automated DCA at an Bitcoin only Broker who sends it directly into your cold storage and call it a day.

GM&PV plebs. Every single zap is a big GFY to our overlords.