Ah yeah it was the governing party leader. And he said that they attacked (which is true), not you don't fight against Russia. And why it is not a democracy?
I see Donbass as liberated, not as occupied. Not sure about Cherson or Zaporyzia though.
Moldova is certainly under eu "occupation", not the opposite.
I have no idea about Kazakhstan, maybe i missed that.
What story was bs? And how Ukraine ended up having one of the strongest armies in Europe? Arming Ukraine has been admitted also so...
I didn't saw any threats from modern Russia to these countries. I saw them being aggressive against Russia lately though and that was because they were part of the aggressive alliance. So, feeling insecure because you are next to a more powerful country is one thing, being aggressive is another. Also what was Sweden or Denmark afraid of? Anyway time will tell if they chose the right side
Are you aware about that Ukraine is not the first country modern Russia was intruding?
The only difference to Tchechenia is, that Ukraine is closer to europe. But was is the same is that Russia expands their territory without any respect to international trieties.
Russia invests all their power to get access to the five seas and come back to emperialmgreatness.
Check out the Arte documentary about Putins plan to connect the five seas:
https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/119518-000-A/putin-and-the-five-seas-war/
And this plan is no reaction to other military powers at all. When Russias propaganda mentions international law to legitibize their war, this is kind of a non-argument, when they are concistantly violating international law.
I will watch it to see your position and thanks for the suggestion. Maybe not today though. Then i will comment about it (stay tunned if you are interested 😋).
Until then i am aware about the fact that the Georgian government said sorry about the 2008 war that Georgia caused under NATO influence.
When a known serial killer sits on your fence pointing his gun to your windows, are you justified to worry? If yes what would you do?
You know i have already suggested to you to listen to an ex white house safety advisor about the safety concerns that the aggressive alliance, NATO, is violating and also i gave you a link that shows that USA knew that they are violating these safety concerns and that it would eventually lead to war...
Thankfully they are not subjucatted now. Only proxy war candidates 😋
So you have no idea why Russia invaded.
Theodore Postol for example was the leading USA rocket scientist and advisor to the white house for several presidents. He said more than once in interviews that what NATO have done justifies drastical measures by Russia. Maybe you should listen to him, i believe you can make a little research.
Peace is quite simple yes. It takes NATO to stop being aggressive and supporting nazis and terrorists.
This is a bonus (he says something at around 12th minute of the video if i remember correctly)
Before Crimea annexation percentage of russian friendly and western friendly were almost equal as it seemed by the elections. After that, the russian friendly side had minus two million russian friendly voters
So why did Russia invade? What do you think?
No i am not telling Russia is generous, i am pointing that Russia has safety issues by the aggressive NATO expansion eastwards, which is the problem.
I could agree with the rest you said.
No i don't award Putin the peace price, i don't like the role Russia plays on Sudan for example (still better than UAE) as i have already mentioned. And it is not words, Russia promoted peace with facts as i mentioned. What stops you admitting it? Nobody stops Ukraine to have trade relations with eu (there is also a speech from Lavrov saying it) and russian people support Putin, that is clear.
How can you say that when for for example Putin after the mediation of Merkel stopped the conflict in Ukraine while 30000 ukrainians were surrounded and were about to be eliminated, to sign the first Minsk agreement. Both Merkel and Holland admitted that they used the two Minsk agreements in order to buy time for Ukraine until they build a better army. You have one side, the western-ukrainian side that never honours the agreements and they push war and you have the other side,Putin's side, that always is ready to give peace a chance. And it is Putin that does not invest in peace? What do you expect him to do? To give them again time to rearm? Putin did not wake up one morning and said let's invade Ukraine. It is NATO that is the aggressor here (as always).
It is a war. Not a full scale one though (yet).
I can say that because at this point the west has to offer guarantees if they want peace (they don't). It is not Russia that violated the agreements. It is the west. Since the west doesn't want peace, Russia tries to achieve its goals militarily.
Ah, i see your point. I think it is the other way around. Putin, according to Stoltenberg (i believe i can find his speech if you are interested), was looking for an agreement until a few months before the invasion, against the NATO expansion eastwards because he was concerned about Russia's safety (rightfully so i believe). NATO actually chose war (Stoltenberg's words were something like "of course we didn't agree"). Also do you remember Biden saying Russia will invade on 16 of February? On that date Ukraine started bombing again civilians on Donetsk. It still is a special military operation and not a full war. Russia tries to achieve its goals militarily while being open to peace negotiations and that is after the west didn't foloow the two Minsk agreements, the agreement about nuclear weapons etc. For me there is no comparison on this. It is the west that wants war. It is Russia that is open to peace.
I may cannot say the same for Sudan though...
Yeah i believe so. But we will see...
Yeah, so what do you think the facts say?
I don't really agree with what you say but yes, mostly it would be what serves his goals. So when he says we don't care about western Ukraine which was never part of Russia but we care about Odessa which is a russian city, i guess there are some conclusions to be made
Of course. My point was though that these two alone could determine what is happening in this large and significany area.
He also have said that Odessa is a russian city and i think this is the hot topic. Yeah Russia will take back some territories, but what will happen with Odessa? If the Odessa area goes to rissian hands, then except some Bulgarian and Romanian access, the Black Sea will become mainly a russian-turkish "lake". This changes a lot of things.
Yeah Putin has already said more than once, that Russia doesn't care about western Ukraine at all.
So there are people who still think Ukraine will win with whatever definition of winning? 😀
And i am not talking about him, he knows he lies (probably).
Some people in the west hope that russians are tired and some miracle will happen and Russia will have a different government that would like to destroy Russia for the benefit of the west, so they try to push a lityle more. And for that hope they want younger ukrainians to fight and die for their proxy war. The thing is that the more the west push, the more the west is weakening, which is a good thing. The problem is, that happens to the expense of lives, ukrainian lives mainly.
Yeah they can be damp but without the cold effect like others.