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I will never give up respecting everybody. Nostr Dev. Creative. Athlete. Optimist. Freedom lover. Know nothing nobody. Discovering myself. A little GFY is good for you. Sovereign Online Since 810018. Building WoT powered Nostr apps : - My Grapevine (https://grapevine.my) Webs of Trust recommendation engine (WIP) - Meet Me On Nostr (https://nostrmeet.me) Webs of Trust powered onboarding (WIP)

Laugh so hard my burrito came back out. 🤭

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Guns N' Roses - Patience #80s

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Had to go find the whole song and give it another listen. Or three. Thanks for the memories!

Victor. I think you’ve missed a crucial aspect of feee speech.

Freedom, in general, is not achieved by restricting people’s freedom to deny.

There is no version of freedom that is accomplished in this manner. In fact, without the freedom for individuals and groups to deny, reject, expel, ban, and ostracize others, freedom itself would be unobtanium.

Rather, freedom comes from one’s ability to choose. Freedom of choice (to choose from existing options or to create new options) is the only freedom that matters.

As long as individuals have the freedom to create and choose their own nostr clients, nostr relays, nostr groups, and other services, (whether or not any of these are moderated, or paid access, or even have banned said individual) then freedom of speech will always be preserved.

Freedom to block, mute, ban, and otherwise restrict undesirable content and users from any of these services is an essential aspect of nostr freedoms, as is the freedom to join and create new and independent services without limit.

nostr:npub1n0stur7q092gyverzc2wfc00e8egkrdnnqq3alhv7p072u89m5es5mk6h0 can zap notes AND has custom relay-centric feeds and theme colors. Oh … and search actually works. Still bugs, but all around my fav client for IOS.

Fair. The quantifiable gain is simply one step to get to “meet me on nostr” instead of two. I think this is important in the real world of meeting people in person. But that’s my opinion.

Two steps:

1. download app or follow link to web app

2. Scan my QR code to follow me.

One step:

1. Scan QR code to instantly create account and start a thread with me.

In the end… nostr advocates in the field are gonna make use of the tools they have on hand to onboard new friends. It’s up to them to say “here’s what I want”.

You raise a good point. But there are plenty solid use cases for a client dedicated specifically to onboarding. Being the simpler choice than improving the onboarding flow of “any” (or a library for “every”) other social client… I think I’d prefer to work on this. (And what if my preferred client is a native app… can’t send a link follow me on that, without it already being installed)

The question then, is really… what could an onboarding client look like?

I think, maybe your concern could be addressed simply by having the onboarding client open a DM thread between the existing user and the new friend.

Then “meet me on nostr” flow for new friends would simply be :

- scan QR code

- chat with user and customize your profile on the web client.

- user helps with the rest. (maybe include onboarding tutorials and use full links for the user)

Thanks. That is a concern. But I don’t see another way to achieve the use case of a nostr user wanting to onboard a new friend at an in person social event.

AFAIKT, this would require:

- A QR code for the friend to scan as the ONLY step to follow from the user. (This step HAS to be quick and able to be completed at a later time.)

- Since friend prolly does not have a native client already installed, QR code MUST launch a web client.

- this will EITHER be a dedicated onboarding client or it will be a social client with an onboarding flow.

- assuming the former, a dedicated onboarding web client MUST provide links to other (native or web based) social clients.

Do you see another way?

Just registered nostrmeet.me

Gonna build simple client for nostr users to onboard new friends in real life. #helpwanted

When complete:

- you can go to nostrmeet.me/mynpub for a QR code with your profile info. Anyone can scan the code to meet you and follow you on nostr.

- For existing nostr users, scanning QR will simply take them to your profile on their “default” nostr app. (Like Damus QR)

- Otherwise, scanning QR will take new friends to a “meet me on nostr” onboarding wizard.

- your new friend will get an npub right away (after opting in) with you as their first follow. (No default follows)

- after customizing their profile as much as they wish, new users will be offered a curated list of “App Store” links to native clients for their device,

- new users will be instructed to PASTE their nsec into the native app and NO WHERE ELSE (without consulting you or another experienced user for further advice).

- if you are logged into the client you may opt in to be notified when your new friends join, and to send them a welcome message.

Who wants to spend a weekend building this with me?

We may need to trend a hash tag to

Remind the community that irl meetups are not only important but also happening.

#nicetomeetyou

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