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Curious human being.

Exactly owning Bitcoin can’t be successful if you don’t understand it. The accumulation of Bitcoin should be proportional to the accumulation of Bitcoin knowledge. We are luck there are so many nice resources out there. One of my favorites is the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/@Bitcoin_University?si=CX7T9v7QPx4yV8p9

Anyone accepting #bitcoin in #copenhagen ? From bakeries to restaurants to barbers anything?

In my opinion, the base layer money should NOT be the latest and greatest state of the art and should not be regularly upgraded. When you update systems you tend to include bugs and increase the attack surface. I think the best is to scale in layers, I’m 100% pro privacy, but not in base layer. Let’s scale like the internet did in layers. That’s how we keep a stable reliable money (Bitcoin), and still add innovations and privacy and fast payments and everything in layers on top.

FYI Muun wallet is not a real lightning wallet. It uses submarine swaps and batches transactions on chain. It's cheaper than transacting on chain, but more much more expensive than lightning.

Both parties definitely do need to have a node online to transact with Lightning (if you are not doing it then someone else is running that node for you like with Phoenix or Breez. That means you're trusting them and they also have vision into all your transactions)

Fair, but if security and privacy don't matter to you, and you prefer convenience and usability, why not just use Paypal, Cashapp, Venmo, etc for spending? Way more people use and accept those than lightning too.

-Onramp to Monero directly with fiat noKYC and P2P using LocalMonero.

-Buy it using Bisq - Monero is their largest volume trades by far after Bitcoin.

-Simply swap Bitcoin or another crypto for it using a swap aggregators like trocador.app

-Buy at big exchanges like Kraken if you must, but I don't recommend since they require KYC. But at least once you withdraw they lose the trail similar to withdrawing cash from an ATM.

You can constantly swap back and forth if you want, but I don't do that and wouldn't recommend doing that bc its bad for privacy and also would be expensive to do that all the time.

Only buy the amount of Monero you're planning to use over X amount of time you're comfortable with (just say 3 months worth). The timeline you hold Monero is too short and the amounts are too small to be significant vs long term price action of BTC. For example, all of 2022 if you held Monero instead of Bitcoin during that year you would've made ~2.5x more. I'm not saying to do this, but just an example that these timelines are too short to matter.

Places to use Monero directly:

monerica.com (massive directory)

kycnot.me/?type=service

moneromarket.io

And freenet markets of course

Giftcards and virtual debit cards:

coincards.com

buy.cakepay.com

stealths.net

Thanks that was great info!

I’m good with my setup though and I don’t see a problem with the submarine swaps, looks like a very clever way to settle transactions on and off chain! Brilliant!

I don’t see a use case for monero in my life but I’m happy that it’s a tool useful to many people. I’ll be sticking with btc and lightning for now but great discussion! Thanks again

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

In my experience until now, I can easily just download muun wallet on my phone fund it with some real bitcoin and start spending using lightning immediately.

So the usability case is not a problem for me at all. Also I don’t think it’s true that you need the other party to be online to receive a payment, I never saw that mentioned anywhere.

As for the security and privacy, it always depends on your threat landscape, I’m not so worried for the ultimate security and privacy as I’m not doing anything illegal. So we always need to compromise between security and usability according to our situation.

But anyway, how do you use monero? Do you buy it directly using fiat? Do you buy bitcoin and exchange it to monero? And after you are done with your private transactions do you convert back to bitcoin, fiat or you keep holding monero? I would like to ask you if you believe that you lose security and privacy at this stage when exchanging back and forth with monero.

Thank you

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There are people who only want Bitcoin to win, because according to their thesis Bitcoin fixes everything.

This is one of the most outrageous things I've ever heard from people with the capacity for conscience.

What fixes everything is the inner and individual change that each person makes to become a better person, which consequently improves the community around them.

Everyone preaches change in others, but how many really want to change themselves?

Bitcoin doesn't fix anything, because bitcoin is a tool and like all tools, it doesn't have the free will to do anything on its own, it doesn't have the free will to decide to only allow its use for good.

Bitcoin was created with the main role of being a tool that removes personal exposure from the creation of new currencie, and in that respect it has fulfilled its function exemplarily so far.

Now, is Bitcoin the best tool to use as everyday money?

In my humble opinion, no, because to make a purchase or exchange goods there is no benefit in exposing so much information in a simple transaction.

Would you feel comfortable if every time you made a purchase with your bank account the person you were buying from could see how much you had in that wallet?

Is it sovereign to use your main wallet to make payments in Bitcoin?

I don't know anyone who has the slightest understanding of Bitcoin who makes any payments with their main wallet!

For this very reason, I don't think that the main use case for Bitcoin is to replace physical money, but I do see it as a substitute for a savings bank account, protected from all anti-sovereignty measures and devaluation of the currency through new issues of the same.

In the case of a digital substitute for physical money, I think it's much more viable to use the most private too in the digital world, which in my opinion is Monero.

When person A makes a transaction to person B, only A and B know how much has been transacted between them, and with the information they both generate in the transaction, neither person A nor person B knows any information other than what is strictly necessary to carry it out!

In this way, I consider Monero to be an approximation of what physical money is in digital terms!

In conclusion, nothing external changes what's inside, and tools are just tools, it's what we do with them that can trigger change!

Why don’t you use Lightning instead?

Save in #bitcoin and have a separate #lightning wallet which you use for payments. Lightning is instant, almost zero fees, more anonymous than btc. Why use monero? Monero has nice tech but what are you going to do with it? Are you going to transfer the money back to btc? And just use it as a tool? Why would it gain significant value as a currency, I just don’t see it.

Do people in #Argentina use #bitcoin?

Great! But why he said that the block took 2 mins to process? Aren’t they supposed to last 10 mins each?

I want to buy my coffee ☕️ with Bitcoin 🙏

I think it’s good for privacy - as a tool, but not as money. I wouldn’t save my long term savings in monero, but maybe use it for anonymous transactions.

On the other hand you can also use Lighting on BTC, it’s also very private and safe.

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What can I buy with Bitcoin in Copenhagen Denmark ?

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Why does CZ stepped down as CEO of Binance ??

#cz #binance #news

Happy Friday and enjoy your weekend #nostrmates!

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Hey David, I just watched your YouTube video about Damus and Lightning payments! I decided to download the app and play around!

I would appreciate a tip!

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