Do you know if any of this will apply to open source developers that do not publish their apps on the google playstore or ios appstore?

Do you know if publishing an app to f-droid would apply?

That reasoning should apply all the more to normal plebs, the ones who don't have unlimited-fiat-money-backed armed goons to protect them. KYC, doxxing, is the problem. I'll take measures to protect my privacy as well and I won't be doxxing myself to your agencies and your institutions. For my own safety and my family's safety.

#privacy #kyc

Could you mention the AI you used please?

I had that exact same experience asking some AI model about some Dune story plots. I know that book pretty well. The AI answer was pure BS, pure hallucination. But I don't remember which model I used at that time.

But I see that it's all very much model-dependent, and prompt-dependent.

What happened in the 51st State with the covid craziness :

"Corrupted by Fear: How the Charter was betrayed, and what Canadians can do about it"

https://www.amazon.ca/Corrupted-Fear-Charter-betrayed-Canadians/dp/B0DSZSTBLL

"As Canadians, we depend on our courts to protect us when the government violates our Charter rights and freedoms. After extensive Covid lockdowns and vaccine mandates, many are left wondering how such violations could go unchecked. How is it that we still don’t have clear explanations as to why judges preferred the evidence of the government over the evidence of citizens fighting for their Charter freedoms? All Canadians, regardless of their views on the pandemic, should be concerned about courts repeating media narratives in their judgments, seemingly turning a blind eye to the violations of human rights, and failing to consider the real harms suffered by people. What will be the next pretext that politicians use to violate human rights, and then use to justify the violation in court?

Corrupted by Fear reviews, through the eyes of constitutional lawyer John Carpay, the evidence before courts in Charter challenges to Covid lockdowns. Carpay explains how harsh measures that turned our world upside down were not subjected to proper scrutiny. He explores crucial lessons Canadians can learn from history, particularly the collapse of democracy and human rights into fascism in Europe in the 1930s. He concludes with an action plan that Canadians can use to resist and defeat future attacks by government against our rights and freedoms.

John Carpay is the Founder and President of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms. Born in the Netherlands, he grew up in British Columbia. Fluent in English, French, and Dutch, he earned his B.A. in Political Science at Laval University in Quebec City, and his LL.B. from the University of Calgary. John has devoted his legal career to defending the Charter rights and freedoms of Canadians, and has spent decades advocating for freedom in the courts of law and the court of public opinion."

https://www.jccf.ca/ :

"FROM COAST TO COAST

We Defend Freedom in Canada

We are a registered charity. Founded in 2010, we defend the constitutional freedoms of Canadians through litigation and education. "

Thank you. I'll read it.

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Do you know of work (research) I could look at that might compare monero and lightning+cashu privacy?

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But that would mean that the CEX could see where the moneto went, no?

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I mean that if you withdraw from an exchange through bitcoin on-chain (not through lightning or liquid), you'll have a UTXO (unspent transaction output) on the bitcoin blockchain, but what you then do with that UTXO will determine how much privacy you lose or regain.

You're right, that was a bad choice of words on my part. It comes from the heart. I like the guy.

I've seen him appearing frustrated with bitcoin for a long time and it's sad to me seeing a brother going in what I believe to be the wrong direction.

But it was a bad choice of words on my part.

I think it depends on how you use your onchain UTXOs afterwards. Are they coinjoined into lightning and then spent through cashu, liquid, etc.

But the number one low-hanging fruit for privacy, imho, is avoiding a centralized echange which requires KYC.

Then, the next low-hanging privacy fruit is what goes around any spend : using a pseudonym, private mailboxes, private email addresses, etc.

> I continue to be doubtful about Chaumian mints.

Are those doubts related to the privacy that can be obtained through cashu or rather related to the custodial risks?

In passing, I'd like to thank you for all your work on Joinmarket. It's the coinjoin implementation that I always recommend.

Have you heard of any project working to use something akin to coinjoin but on lightning, cashu, liquid, etc? It seems like it would be a match made in heaven.

Multisig : that's debatable. I remember Francis Pouliot writing this a couple years ago, on twitter :

"Having a strong BIP39 passphrase and redundant backups is superior to a multisig for security, accesability and loss prevention. I can't imagine the stress of multisig as a personal solution. No wonder people pay 3rd parties to hold their multisig keys!"

Francis has been in bitcoin for a long while and has been involved in customer-facing businesses (btc businesses) for about as long (the Bitcoin Embassy in MTL and then bullbitcoin.com).

I remember even electrum (older version) messing up the multisig setup so badly that such that electrum couldn't access the funds put in that multisig. And electrum is a very OG project.

I've seen privacy-loving people "using monero" with their crypto.com account. Others using it on Windows. You can find misguided people everywhere.

Those are all good points.

But that just leads me back to the basics : do we have better odds with a Jade without secure element but where both the Jade and the oracle server have to be compromised, or do we have better odds relying only on a secure element?

But, I must admit that hardware wallets are probably not the best choice for really huge amounts. I remember reading Greg Maxwell saying he preferred an offline computer (probably with a live-dvd, I assume).

Bitcoin payments on Square terminals incoming in the second half of this year, or 2026 :

"May 27 2025, LAS VEGAS – Block, Inc. (NYSE: XYZ) today announced it will launch bitcoin payments on Square, [...] The roll out is anticipated to begin in the second half of 2025 and is expected to reach all eligible Square sellers in 2026, subject to applicable regulatory approvals."

https://block.xyz/inside/block-to-roll-out-bitcoin-payments-on-square

My problem with the NDA being necessary to view the technical documentation is that they'll be even less eyes on the design. How many can double-check that there are no bugs.

It's true that for an off-the-shelf MCU, we're trusting the vendor. One of the things that I like about Jade is that since they're using off the shelf MCUs with open source software, we can DIY build one. Granted, probably not too many people do that.

Passports, credit cards, etc, and secure elements : there's no do-over in btc whereas it's not too hard to do a do-over in the fiat and KYC world.

Jade Plus also offer a stateless signer option (if you can trust that the hardware really doesn't keep anything when it shouldn't).

So overall, can I assume that you prefer the odds of a secure element being hacked compared to the odds of both a Jade being stolen and the oracle server being compromised?

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You say that you tend to agree with the last paragraph of my reply. Should I then also infer that you don't agree with the second one where I compared favorably our different choices on bitcoin versus monero in terms of privacy?

I'm really asking, not trolling. I'm very much interested in privacy and I very much respect your opinions about privacy software.