Yes, but since delete requests are in the very baseline of spec I wouldn't call relays who willfully ignore it "Nostr relays", by definition, any more than if they broke protocol with a different JSON blob.

I guess all we can do is name, shame and avoid them.

been thinking about this for months/years with Twitter - a nice solution would be for clients to indicate an edit took place with a % number inside that icon saying how MUCH was edited :D

Just because it’s not possible to be sure something got deleted, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be designing systems that are immutable. Users should be able to request their own content be deleted, either with a new message, or setting the expiration. Well behaved relays should respect that, and actually delete instead of just leaving it up to the client which might only get a partial feed and miss the delete message.

There will DEFINATELY be relays and bots which craw the network and archive things. But in the normal flow of the app, most users, will stop seeing and hosting content the original poster wanted to remove. It will take it out of normal circulation on the nostrverse and while not perfect, is important.

You can't call it delete if somebody can keep a copy of it.

It's just misleading UI. Not cool.

Ah I thought it was not actually deleting because you can’t make sure all relays would overwrite?

Do it

Are nostr-tweets (neets?) not editable? :(

Elixir 🤩 where?!

on it as we speak… very exciting…

Elixir relay implementation incoming👀

CPU

Heh. I am no longer following you.

Removing brb.io and nostr.bitcoiner.social nukes my contact list from 600 to 100, but my nostr experience is 10x faster. Sigh.

That's why I'm looking forward to #Nostrica. I love my kids more than anything in this world, but I also haven't had an adult vacation with my wife in many years.

**Lightning is the hidden killer feature of Nostr**

Yes, being censorship resistant and decentralized are both incredibly important, but most people won't realize why those two aspects are needed and important until it's too late. That's why I keep saying that the Bitcoin Lightning network and how it's tightly integrated into various aspects of Nostr are *the* hidden killer features. It's a way to micro-dose orange pill users onto Bitcoin in a friction-less and stress free, and fun manner.

I've had dozens of Nostr Plebs customers reach out to me over the past 5 weeks and tell me that they've never used Lightning, that they've never downloaded a Lightning wallet, or that they've had a Lightning node, but never opened channels. These Nostriches are now setting up their nodes, they're opening channels, and they're sending sats from their Lightning wallets to strangers around the globe - in seconds, with minimal fees, and no third parties are involved!

Keep the Lightning "Tips" are "Zaps" flowing. It's a great way to on-board new users. Even if it's just a few sats, it's always appreciated and always welcomed. It brings smiles to the faces of plenty of Nostriches.

Big week.

**Why am I bullish on Nostr?**

Open protocols are the backbone of a fair and decentralized internet. They allow for innovation, competition and collaboration, enabling a level playing field for all. By using open protocols, we can ensure that no single entity has control over the flow of information and that everyone has equal access to all of the protocol's benefits. Adopting open protocols also helps to protect our privacy, security, and ensures that the internet remains a public good for future generations. This is why Nostr (and Bitcoin) will win. **This is why we never stop innovating. This is why we never stop building.**