the bible taken literally does not always match science exactly, eg genesis, but becomes interesting when you see science does align in some way like floods, hominids etc

when you look at the bible as a human oral tradition then written it is remarkable it has the facts it does, given mans flaws

What do you mean by that?

I've never found the Bible and science to be incompatible. Personally, I find it evident that we live in an old, vast, and complex universe, as we've come to understand through scientific inquiry.

I also hold that God is the ground of all being, that He actively sustains all that is, and that He works in and through created things for the good of His creation.

I find both beliefs to be mutually compatible.

I didn't have a particular moment where *I left*

But looking back I haven't used it in oever a year. Because of the moderation it was becoming a woke echo-chamber (even across subreddits)

Welcome! There's Lemmy too for a Reddit-like alternative

what reddit drama we talking about?

I’m leaving Reddit and never looking back after that shitshow…

#introduction

dont throw out the baby with the bath water

how do you reconcile with your eyes vs what is written in the bible? the vast existence of the universe, apparent history of so much other life, planets, faiths?

do you know god? or do you know what some have written of god?

there is a 'long' history of people trying to understand our existence

That's the definition of 'orthodox', right teaching. The one exception I can think of is their stance on divorce and remarriage. Where the early Church always forbade remarriage, the modern Orthodox Churches say it's okay after an episcopal blessing.

There is a long history of Scriptural interpretation that deals with the question of how it ought to be taken. An argument like "the creation narrative in Genesis is literally false" doesn't really address what Christians claim about Scripture (depending on which schools of Christian thought you ask, anyway).

We still spend time teaching kids how to write in cursive

We have magic internet money this is the future who the fuck uses cursive

I don’t feel like going to the gym but if I don’t continue to show up in the face of adversity then I will become a bitch boy

Me!?

Haha. Imagine knowing things to be false that everyone was certain to be true. That would be so agonizing.

Can we please take a moment to rank those insults from most pain to hilarious

1) mentally sick (owww)

2) retarded (prob true)

3) going to hell (meh)

4) negative rizz (fucking hilarious)

“Ummmm you’re a girl now? Not ok negative rizz”

I often wonder what it would be like going back in time, knowing what you know today. Would you apply your knowledge to invent new things or spark ideas in people who eventually invent them? Would your knowledge make you seem extremely wise? Would this knowledge make you wealthy? Or would you be called a witch and burned at the stake or stoned? 😂

Same here, appreciate the sharpening brother

> It's literally the word of God.

What does Holy Scripture says is the Word? John 1 says In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God... and the Word became flesh. It doesn't say the Word, which became flesh, has then become written. The written word is not God, which would be a Bibliolotry of which I find much of Protestantism guilty. It is holy, and it is God's word—yes, He is the ultimate Author—but I would be careful to say it is not The Word, especially as it says The Word is something other than itself.

I worship God—the Father, the Son Who is the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit—not the written word of God. I believe in the written word of God, but I know it is not God.

To study the scriptures is good and holy, but it is not what the whole of the Christian faith is about. That would veer into Bibliolotry.

> Vatican I explicitly condemns what you're trying to say. The Church is a witness to something that already existed, nothing more.

The Church is the "pillar and foundation of truth" as the Scriptures say. It is witness and custodian of Holy Tradition. That Holy Tradition is originally oral and over the lives of the Apostles became also written. That written Tradition is Holy Scripture. The Church needed God's inspiration and authority to do this. The Church predates the written and compiled Bible, but not Holy Tradition. The Church is founded by Christ upon the Apostles in His Holy Tradition.