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Build your own airgapped, stateless bitcoin signing device for less than most hardware wallets. 🀘 Not set up for zaps, if you'd like to donate to our contributors please go to https://donate.seedsigner.com

🧑 The Portland MeetUp invited me out last spring, and very generously covered my travel. I hope I provided enough value that it was worth it for them.

Replying to Avatar The Ben Gunn

not if nostr:npub17tyke9lkgxd98ruyeul6wt3pj3s9uxzgp9hxu5tsenjmweue6sqq4y3mgl arent welcome.

Not paying those prices if the best projects are omited in place of shittier projects with VC money to throw away.

I want to be transparent about this b/c I've already mentioned that I will be at this this event as an attendee, and also because it was brought up here; if you're going to form opinions about any of what follows below, please read the entire post, I am trying to be as fair as possible.

I contacted the BTCPrague conference organizers several months ago, after deciding to attend, inquiring about a speaker opportunity but was immediately told that the main conference speaker's cohort was entirely full. The organizer however did ask me to make a social media post that I was planning to attend the event, and offered me a discount on conference passes (which I politely declined, stating that I still wanted to support the event by paying the full admission price).

To their credit, one of the organizers, and then someone from their headline sponsor (Satoshi Labs), subsequently contacted me about a "hack day" that is being held two days before the main conference (this event in all likelihood will have a fraction of the main event's attendees), saying I possibly could do a talk at that hack day event.

While I was waiting to hear about the status of this smaller opportunity, the exchange depicted in the images below occurred in the Dutch Noderunners telegram channel. After this exchange I was re-contacted by the same person representing the headline sponsor saying I could have a 30 min time slot at the hack day, but that their preference was that the presentation wasn't about our project, because "most of the attendees know what SeedSigner is and what it does". There was also an offer of a demo table at this smaller hack day event to share info about our project; I believe that offer still stands.

Satoshi Labs delivers a lot of value to bitcoiners at large. Despite their ongoing hardware support for numerous alt coins, I believe they are an overwhelming net-positive for the bitcoin space. But they are also a for-profit business trying to cover all of the expenses that come with being a for-profit business. Nothing wrong with this, but it does put certain natural incentives in place, especially when it comes to ideas or projects that might compete with their core products. Its the same with event organizers, they want to host speakers and companies that are interesting and that deliver value to attendees, and they also don't want to unnecessarily upset their sponsors in any way.

It's a delicate dance with our project often left on the sidelines. In the end, these events are private, have a 100% right to decline any prospective speaker, and neither their organizers nor their sponsors owe us anything.

But at the root of this whole issue is the question of whether SeedSigner reasonably deserves a seat at the table when it comes to the larger conversation about L1 bitcoin cold storage -- does SeedSigner or DIY deserve to be included for example, in a panel about cold storage options at a given bitcoin conference? Many who have built and used a SeedSigner emphatically believe that we do. Others think our project is at best useless, or at worst dangerous (they may hold that opinion in good faith, or it might be influenced by products they sell or sponsorship money they receive; I can't say because I'm not in their heads). I am admittedly biased, and think the core concept of DIY cold storage has merit, that our project takes an excellent approach to this concept, and that as the largest DIY FOSS signer project, we deserve to be a part of the core conversation and not forever sidelined to hack-a-thons.

SeedSigner and projects like it are basically the bitcoin community's last line of defense when it comes to cold storage. Given recent events, it doesn't seem prudent that our project be perpetually told to stand in the corner until if/when we become more necessary or useful.

Regardless, I look forward to meeting many, many good bitcoiners in Prague. And I just might shill our project if it comes up in conversation.

Apologies for the crosspost.

If you are passionate about our project and planning to attend any conferences this year, please reach out to the organizers and ask them if they have invited anyone from our project to present on it. This is the only way we may be considered to appear at many of these events.

For reference, my plans so far for the year are to attend the Oslo Freedom Forum, to speak & operate a donated maker booth at the Nashville conference, and will also be at BTC Prague as an attendee.

Based toolset. nostr:note1wfl8v94ltwdt9n2s00hvpeenfypuq64hvec20c2dxhjkzga7mcjqhgrd6x

🀣 I love nostr:npub1ugnq57hn8va6xqr5zywy2eunem6c624583vkt0dmv40ep7tnnxkqrr898l and this meme is perfect.

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What shishi said. But go with the soldered pins if you can. Sometimes the hammer ones work great, sometimes there are issues.

Replying to Avatar Bert

This evening I spend time teaching children about bitcoin. 11 years old was easily creating a new seed with nostr:npub17tyke9lkgxd98ruyeul6wt3pj3s9uxzgp9hxu5tsenjmweue6sqq4y3mgl and we used bluewallet to export the xpub. We wrote down the seed words and verified them. Signed a PSBT. Talked about devaluating currency with the Venezuelan (πŸ™nostr:npub1kvfz8rglvpsqevznlt86ukcz0s9uap3pypjwd3tnmkn2pgjmjujqlncy2c) and Zimbabwean (πŸ™nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc ) notes. Explained the nostr:npub18d4r6wanxkyrdfjdrjqzj2ukua5cas669ew2g5w7lf4a8te7awzqey6lt3 on their phones. They loved magic internet money and asked a thousand questions. It was beautiful.

thank you for sharing this. 🧑

When I was an FA for TWA, I thought baking cookies at 30k ft was fancy...

Replying to Avatar Marcelinho

You are going to be waiting for a looooong time, actively avoiding this, forming a company is not the solution.

What would an accurate ven diagram depicting the relationship between nostr and primal look like?

Have to say, I find nostr much more compelling these days now that the are fewer sacred cows and more independent thought.

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If a guy reselling hobbyist electronic components and 3d printed parts out of his basement makes you nervous about your multi-million dollar company's profit model, there likely are issues with the products you're offering, and/or the amount of value you're delivering to your customers.

(And no, this is not a reference to just one individual or company.)