Unplugged are scammers: https://x.com/GrapheneOS/status/1808161048194671006

Carrier-based calls/texts that lack end-to-end encryption is at the wrong end of the spectrum.

There's no secure messaging

The goal is still to reduce trust in servers, and SimpleX does that better than any other private messaging network, but having anonymous node operators doesn't improve privacy, as they've got no incentive not to store the user data they can access.

You should use Tor if you require transport layer security, but that's not a solution for everyone.

A direct P2P connection over the internet is not private, as both ISPs can see who you're connecting to. P2P over an overlay network like Tor or I2P is better, but still not perfect: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/simplex-vs-cwtch-who-is-right/19256/8

I think many of those same points apply to I2P?

Nostr and SimpleX can coexist. One as a publishing, or "social media" network, the other as the most private and secure communication network.

I completely agree, this is what I meant, I probably shouldn't write stuff when I'm tired. I don't think Nostr private messaging and SimpleX can coexist without users' safety being harmed. The ones who already are aware go out of their way to avoid Nostr DMs, and a lot even put links in their Nostr profiles. This means the only people who are using Nostr DMs are people who don't understand the lack of privacy and security, which is very dangerous.

If you're talking about the Session messahing app, then not really.

https://x.com/SimpleXChat/status/1754455524068720762

https://x.com/SimpleXChat/status/1802432603150311442

Encryption security was downgraded based on incrorrect statements, transport layer uses their own onion routing network that requires node operators to invest ~$1000 in a cryptocurrency.

You're better off using SimpleX over Tor.

Sadly a lot of the developers see it as competition rather than something that can coexist. I believe it would be beneficial for both platforms too. User safety is being put at risk with the current system.

https://x.com/SimpleXChat/status/1835393532250530132

The developer has said they think SimpleX is more private, but I think Nostr clients in general need to add some big text with warning symbols and sirens to warn about the insecurity of DMs. Also, this should be added: https://github.com/retrnull/garnet/issues/8 ⚠️🚨

The solution is to stop using phones that violate user rights by preinstalling a bunch of unnecessary proprietary services. https://grapheneos.org

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SimpleX gets 88 points once you stop punishing them for avoiding those privacy/security issues in the first place.

This points system is punishing apps for for completely avoiding privacy/security problems. If it's not applicable then it should be counted as green, such as:

-Do you get notified if a contact's fingerprint changes?

-Is personal information (mobile number, contact list, etc.) hashed?

-Are messages encrypted when backed up to the cloud?

Depends if quantum computers can break the cryptography.

Someone can easily run a SimpleX relay anonymously, it's no different to Nostr in that sense. It's just the 1 company operating the preset servers in the app, but there's planned to be more in the future, and all of those will be hosted by known companies that signed a legally binding contract to run unmodified server code, and not logging IP addresses except for DDoS prevention. The idea is that anonymous relay operators have no incentive not to store the minimal user data they can access (mainly IP address). You'd want Nostr relays to be run by anonymous operators in an environment where government demand for censorship is high, as relay operators can't be compelled to takedown content if nobody knows who they are. Delivery redundancy is planned (https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/issues/3563). Censorship on SimpleX isn't possible in the same way as it is on a public social network, as everything is end-to-end encrypted, so there's not a lot of reason to be actively using multiple relays at the same time for delivering messages, unlike Nostr.

This is what I mean. Cashu has lots of support, but not FediMints. There's a single custodian that can steal your coins. FediMints has multiple custodians, so it seems clearly better, but it has very little support. I might be missing something, but it seems very weird.

I meant to say mobile wallets, there's some command line tools but I can't be bothered with that

Ok. It seems better than cashu because there's multiple custodians supposedly, idk how it works but there's far less support than cashu. Only mutiny wallet and fedi support it, mutiny wallet is shutting down..

What about FediMints