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Javier
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There is even a trickier part: they do actually have jurisdiction over the dollars you think you own, because the dollars are just debt that they can claim at any moment.

But Bitcoin is not debt, so they have zero right to claim it.

So detaining somebody that creates an open source wallet over a supposed crime of dollars is totally illegal, because no dollars are ever used ever on it, and they have zero jurisdiction over Bitcoin. It's not created by them, it's not debt, they can't claim it.

I would say better that in a world of tyrants, privacy is the tool to protect yourself from the tyrants.

All of us are criminals by those definitions.

The reality is: we are not criminals. Government has always been, is right now, and will always be the criminals. They confiscate arbitrarily, they tax arbitrarily, they create wars arbitrarily, they impose their will arbitrarily, and they finally exterminate millions of people arbitrarily.

Gov is a cancer. Share this knowledge. It's vital for our near future survival.

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The entire developed world tax apparatus that was built in the 20th century and extends into the 21st century depends on ubiquitous financial surveillance.

They are not going to give that up without a fight. I have been saying at a number of conferences and podcasts that privacy is the main battleground for the next decade.

Back in the 19th century and before, money was mostly private. There were plenty of dictators but there was no major method of surveilling all transactions. Therefore things like broad income taxes were untenable to enforce.

But in the 20th century as money increasingly moved around at the speed of light, people needed bank accounts to keep up. It wasn’t all forced on them; they chose it. And those bank accounts were centralized, surveillable, and ruggable.

This allowed authorities to switch to income taxes, which require ubiquitous financial surveillance to work. And ultimately it allowed them to switch to fiat currency altogether.

Now in the 21st century, Bitcoin and its various layers allow people to hold and move around money globally without permissioned banks. They can do so peer to peer, or they can do so with custodians and open layers, etc. Unlike the base layer of fiat, the base layer of bitcoin is permissionless.

But this represents a threat to the entire current system of taxation and financial control. If bitcoin and particularly various private methods on top of it were to be adopted at massive scale, the entire tax structure and other things would need to reshape themselves around that reality. And so they won’t make it easy; they will try to criminalize financial privacy as much as possible while the network is still pretty small.

The only solutions are to 1) make privacy tech so ubiquitous that it can’t be isolated and can spread organically in a distributed way and 2) to apply legal pressure when possible so that governments sort of have to operate within the bounds of their own law, like the 1st and 4th amendments.

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El aparato fiscal de todo el mundo desarrollado en el siglo XX y que se extiende al siglo XXI depende de la vigilancia financiera ubiqua.

No se rendirán sin lucha. He estado diciendo en varios congresos y podcasts que la privacidad es el principal campo de batalla para la próxima década.

En el siglo XIX y antes, el dinero era principalmente privado. Había suficientes dictadores, pero no existía un método significativo de vigilar todas las transacciones. Por lo tanto, los impuestos generales de ingresos como el IRPF eran inaplicables de facto.

Pero en el siglo XX, a medida que el dinero se movía cada vez más a alta velocidad, las personas necesitaban cuentas bancarias para mantenerse a flote. No se les forzó; lo eligieron. Y esos bancos estaban centralizados, vigilables y manipulables.

Esto permitió a las autoridades pasarse a los impuestos sobre los ingresos, que requieren una vigilancia financiera general para funcionar. Y al final, les permitió pasar al dinero fiduciario en sí.

Ahora en el siglo XXI, Bitcoin y sus diversas capas permiten a las personas mantener y mover el dinero globalmente sin bancos ni permisos. Pueden hacerlo de manera peer-to-peer, o pueden hacerlo con custodias y capas abiertas, etc. A diferencia de la capa base del fiat, la capa base de Bitcoin no requiere permiso.

Esto representa una amenaza para todo el sistema actual de recaudación impositiva y control financiero. Si Bitcoin y especialmente varias metodologías privadas sobre el se adoptan a gran escala, toda la estructura impositiva y otros aspectos tendrían que reajustarse a esa nueva realidad. Y por lo tanto, no les será fácil; intentarán criminalizar la privacidad financiera todo lo que puedan mientras que la red todavía sea pequeña.

Las soluciones son 1) hacer que la tecnología de privacidad sea tan ubiqua que no se pueda aislar y se pueda extender de manera orgánica de una forma distribuida y 2) aplicar presión legal cuando sea posible de modo que los gobiernos tengan que operar dentro los límites de su propia ley, como por ejemplo la Primera y Cuarta Enmienda de las constitución Americana.

The idea that #Samourai has been censored by the #FBI sets a precedent even worse than you imagine: from now on any wallet provider in the world will think twice before having #American clients.

They still used a centralized coordinator for the coinjoins.

What would be the difference between using ecash or plain lightning?

Neurolink, CO2 stupidness bought, AI funding, Democrat party funding, X continues to censorship, and we can go on...

What? Capitalism is about allowing spam? Are you idiot?

I do whatever I want with my node, including but not limited to completely and absolutely censorship spam in what enters into my mempool.

I would even say that socialism is to allow stupid spam from probably-gov-scammers into my mempool.

Good channel to continue investigating this (and I heard they are Bitcoiners):

https://www.youtube.com/c/ForeverConsciousResearchChannel

Dedicated to all shitcoiners, because shitcoining is greed, which is a sin.

He is always saying how bad is the woke, but he is the wokest of them all. Don't judge by the words, but by what they do.

Because "normal" doesn't ever mean good. And "abnormal" doesn't mean bad. Normal just means the usual. If the usual is bad, then that's normal.