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Tuesday night to Wednesday, December 13: Documentary by Klaus Maeck and Tanja Schwerdorf on the life and work of Wau Holland, founder of the CCC (Chaos Computer Club).

https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/Alles-ist-Eins-Ausser-der-0-Dr-Waus-Chaos-Computer-Film,sendung1316880.html

While we are here discussing about centralized coinjoin services, Joinstr is being overlooked, no more paying stupid fees, everyone pays the proportional part of the chain fee that the transaction costs, without any profit motive, coinjoins for everyone, without a central coordinator.

If it also allows collaborative sending as in joinmarket, it will be perfection.

If this is not keeping you awake at night, you are just a fan of your centralized coinjoin provider.

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And you say unrelated things. Zero link is important for a centralized coordinator not for a decentralized one and you still have to trust that they use the software that the centralized service provider tells you, and that in joinmarket more than one mix is necessary is also known, you are not discovering the gunpowder.

Unfortunately I admit that Joinmarket is complicated for newbies and that to get a perfect privacy you have to move in taker (Coordinator) and maker, but all this complexity will be solved with Joinstr.

Why do you want it to be zerolink if you are the coordinator? 😂

You can't even argue against anything I've laid out, puppy, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.

Good luck with your centralized service of which the identity of all its workers is known and they contribute for the state.

Joinmarket and in the near future Joinstr, see? you are stupid 😂.

Seriously, I hope Samourai pays you, otherwise you're just another stupid person.

You spout the same nonsense as your master, how old are you? you are a child.

You have to be retarded to show these Joinmorket sudokus and show them as a defect.

The change addresses are known to whom they belong and what? in whirpool you can't find out who owns the change address in the initial mix?

Can you find out who owns the outputs with the same amount?

Don't you know how joinmarket works?

A lot of blablabla and the guy that sells this crap can't even de-anonymize my pegouts in liquid.

Yes, he sells Scamourai's shitty courses 😂.

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You have several options, if you have BTC you can make the pegin yourself to get the same amount in Liquid or you can use for example boltz to transform LN-BTC (lightning) into L-BTC (Liquid). You can also buy Liquid in Bisq.