I just sent a little bit more again, finally I learned to use it, cool 😎 ⚡ ⚡

I'm using on desktop. I think for mobile should be an app, right?

I just sent you 10 sats, a test, let me know if you received it please?

Following

One problem I see here is that opening two different clients, like Satellite and Nostrich, some new notes is missing on Satellite. Any idea why this happens?

Why 1000 sats is the minimum?

Is there any followup? Or no one cares rn, because existing "media silos" work well enough?

In my opinion bulding up a torrent infrastructure for nostr would make things more resilient. Instead of running separate "hosting sites" the same marvelously generous individuals would run seeding along with many other smaller seeders. And torrents are even streamable, so torrent+nostr could replace youtube and spotify.

#torrent

Hi,

I would like too see an option to subscribe to a conversation and be notified of every new message in that specific conversation.

Many times I find an interesting post that I would like to follow the conversation, but I don't see an option to be notified of all messages people replied in that specific conversation.

Obs. I would like to subscribe to be notified, but without be necessary to post anything in the conversation that I intend to follow.

Thanks

I can't click on Qrcode to open Alby extension to zap.

Spent another day trying to optimize scroll performance in Nos. I was able to cut the hitch rate from 60ms/s to 35ms/s, but it’s very slow and tedious work.

One problem I keep bumping into is images. Some aren’t compressed or don’t have a supported color format and iOS has to convert them on the CPU before they can be passed to the GPU for rendering causing dropped frames. Then some are so big that they spend too long getting rendered and cause dropped frames. We display a lot of little avatar images in Nos in addition to the images linked in notes. Are other clients doing any tricks to help with this?

will it be open sourced?

Added NostrGram, Primal and Satellite to the list of clients on nostr.band (to redirect into the app when you 'open' the note or profile). Liking the Satellite app very much, great work #[0] !

I think (feel?) that torrent is a good fit for nostr for censorship resistent media storage. Great to see this!

According to my current economic situation I could find the best Nostr client on Android is called Satellite 🛰 satellite.earth, super optimal in data consumption and friendly with the battery, it lacks many things, but it is the one I can use, incredibly it lacks the option of likes and to be able to send sats, expecting better features in new updates.

Nostr: An Open Super App

The super app is something like WeChat, a single app where you do everything, book a car service, talk to your friends, make purchases online or in person. It's a monolithic do everything app and it's very popular, especially in China.

Silicon Valley tends to make apps that are nothing like the super app. It's because western tech companies don't work anything like Chinese internet companies. Western tech tends to rely on a huge base of open source software but then create these vertically integrated silos of apps that do one thing well with elegant design and not many options. When an app does try to do lots of things we hate it, just look at MS Word.

The vertical integration is narrow. The Chinese super app does everything broadly, but it's not so pretty. SV tends to stagnate, companies are afraid to compete with themselves so they get stuck at a local maximum. Our culture of product development find something that works, and sticks with it. That's why in the west, big companies buy the upstarts. If you're an ambitious entrepreneur, you quit and create a new startup. Most likely you'll fail, but you might do well enough that a big company will you buy you out, or you'll do so well you replace the incumbents.

The last western super app was AOL. And we celebrated its death. Since then it's just been a dream. It was Elon Musk's goal when he bought twitter, it was the story that SBF sold to investors as he pumped up FTX. An app to rule them all.

We don't make a super app because our culture, politics, and economic system don't work like that. We hated being stuck on AOL. Silicon Valley's real super app is the web itself, the browser, linux, smart phones, etc... They're more open, less controlled, more competitive. Our legal system punishes companies that become dominate to eliminate monopolies. Out business culture causes big tech companies to be safe and consistent. Google had the lead in AI yet it was OpenAI that launched ChatGPT in a chaotic barely coordinated 6 week sprint.

Even after AOL, there was a time when silicon valley was moving towards its model of a more open super app. Facebook launched their platform, twitter's api enabled a tremendous app ecosystem. But both companies chose to lock things down. They did it because their only economic model was based on advertising and required their control. The web was slowly enclosed from an open chaotic ecosystem to a platform which monitors users behavior and captured their attention to sell to advertisers.

I think open social protocols we're seeing emerge today, and in particular nostr, could be our super app. Instead a single app that does everything. It's a common social protocol where many apps can be created and run. We've created a system that reflects a set of values around autonomy, openness, decentralization, permissionless participation, privacy, encryption, and yes cryptocurrencies. Without the financial part, we can't make the ecosystem thrive.

We can make a super app, but not one, rather a family of apps, a style of apps that let there be a choices on a common platform. Smart clients, dumb relays, and just enough cryptography to keep it all functioning.

When we build this new open super app protocol, we'll need to create all the things that existed on the centralized social media apps, but also the giant closed super apps. The old model was vertically integrated. Lots of services and businesses were needed to keep it running but they were all controlled by a single company, hidden off from the public. The advertising marketplace, the content moderation, the CDN for fast media delivery, the transcoders for making images and video the right size, the algorithms for deciding what to show you or who you should connect with, the bug tracking, customer support, business development team, legal, compliance, public relations.

We don't like how the vertically integrated ecosystem worked, it didn't provide us agency and autonomy. But most importantly, we didn't have the space to innovate and create. In this new open system, we still need all those services provided by the big companies is needed somehow. We need to meet those same needs, but in new ways.

Users see the frontend of an app, the UX, their experience as a user. But there is so much more, middleware, backend, business operations. All of that will need to be created in a new open ecosystem.

To take one example, moderation, so we don't have to see a constant flow of ISIS beheading videos, some that we can handle with algorithms, but that's also how big social does it today. Even with the best AI minds in the world, a lot slips through. People need to be able to make judgements, and figure out edge cases. I don't like the choices that Facebook, TIkTok, or Elon's Twitter makes, but it doesn't mean we won't need to make those choices. Now we can make it a service where we pay people who do that social labor. And we can choose who we want to do it, making sure their values are alined. We can use a stead stream of payments to all of these services.

Nostr can be the protocol upon which we build an open super app ecosystem which contains multitudes.

It looks like you need to receive a verification before you give one out. #[4] and #[5] are "progenitors" who can give out infinite verifications. Did you happen to meet either of them at Nostrica? (Is there a full list of progenitors somewhere?)