#asknostr

Is there some #gentoo folks on nostr? I wanted to ask, what kind of setup for kernel, init system and desktop environment you know to work with least friction? Maby also including the hardware you run it with.

Since I only quickly tried Gentoo, but switched for void after that, since I did not manage to make it work for me. So maby there is a gentoo geek around willing to help? Maby I would try it in a virtual machine next. Since to me it seems very cool, that one can build every package from source in Gentoo. Seems most free way of computing to me.

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I used to compile gentoo with a block of ice under my laptop to avoid thermal shutdowns. Great times.

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LMAO 😂 Love it.

Also the reason why I don't use Gentoo. Summer is really hot where I am.

I hope you'll enjoy the journey, it's not one of the easiest!

I prefer something like Arch Linux. Time is scarce and Gentoo is quite demanding in that regard 😉

Since you seem curious about distros, may I suggest you take a look at #NixOS? The concept is VERY different from any other distribution, you might find it appealing.

Thank you for the suggestion. I only theoretically looked into Nix until now. But did not quiet convince me to use for a workstation. Can you maby mention what benefits you see, from using nix? From your own experience.

I would be very happy to have one day a kind of automated setup, to quickly install a computer and have every tweak and stuff the same as I had on an other computer. Best would be a automated install.

Main benefit is exactly what you described.

Plus it's clean, secure, and makes you feel like you have your personal majordomo.

But the learning curve is a problem.

Not a Gentoo user but just a Gentoo supporter replying to say I'm glad to see another person recognizing the value of compiling from source

Last time I tried I just used `genkernel` to generate the config.

Sure, they are on Nostr 🙂 Use #gentoo tag and you'll see.

I use dist kernel with RC init, KDE Plasma and Hyprland (both for testing). Dell Inspiron 15 (2017) with i5, 16GB, SSD for /, HDD for /home. With KDE it is not bad, but I installed only some parts of KDE and so not everything is manageable via KDE settings. But it's ok. Hyprland: just installed, working on configuration, so hard to assess yet.

I use gentoo-sources kernel on systemd. Home on ZFS. 3 HDD of 2Tb.

Hi there, currently I'm daily driving Arch and NixOS but I ran Gentoo for a while. If you want a simple and frictionless experience then you're going to want to use the standard Linux kernel with relevant compile flags, systemd init manager (as that's virtually what every other distribution uses) and then ssdm for a display manager along with KDE or whatever desktop environment picks your fancy.

Unfortunately you're missing out on a lot of the benefits of using Gentoo at this point - namely running systemd when you have the freedom to pick any other init system like runit or something else more modern and better designed.

Changing your init system will pose challenges though. The commands for enabling services will be different (which is to be expected) and you might have to install different packages that are say runit compatible as opposed to systemd compatible. All are relatively simple to overcome however this certainly won't be frictionless.

In regards to the other parts its generally all pretty straightforward, you simply install some packages and then enable services with your init system, tickle a config file or two and voilà.

It seems to me you're after Gentoo for privacy and security reasons though. You might be interested to know (if you don't already) that all the binaries from repositories are signed and you can verify them yourself with the signatures.

Furthermore you can also install everything from scratch on any distribution. I'm sure I am patronising you but its something to think about.

Gentoo's documentation however is superb so give it a good read. Mental Outlaw has a good video on installing Gentoo and I believe Luke Smith does too.

Any questions feel free to let me know, I'm more than happy to help out :)

I wrote this installation verbatim from the Handbook. And let the reader spit in my eyes if I changed anything. https://linuxtosha.ru/Gentoo.html

Sorry I do not speak russian. But thanks anyway.