Raw User count, or DAU's, is certainly SOMETHING that makes a difference. I agree it isn't everything, but as a "social network", these things have network effects, and size DOES matter.
On DAU's -- Bluesky = several millions
Mastodon -- =~500k-1mil
Nostr -- - ~ 15k
This is why I've been harping on improvement of the #mostr bridge... There are 10-100x more people we could be talking to, that we could get "for free."
Wow that's a massive difference
really puts it in perspective... we're a tiny little pond here, and there's a vast ocean that we could connect to....
Absolutely. Pretty insane
I wonder if they have the same kind of market place, culture and vibes at all. I’m kind of stuck here even if it’s just the same 21 people everyday.
Mastodon's very different. Geekier, left-er, as far as I can tell.... Bitcoin not really discussed.
Mastodon is a bunch of islands that don’t really connect. I could never get the hang of it and I didn’t find any sort of community at all, so I left.
Yeah... it's almost like, best of both worlds to be here but be able to selectively bridge over content without having to deal with internal server drama 😁
I think a lot of the problem is that a lot of servers on the other side block Nostr. The ones that don't lead to a flood of garbage. That's probably why most 2 way communication doesn't work, and a lot of Nostr users view the bridges as mostly spam.
Usually whenever I see something disgustingly racist, it turns out to be a bridged Mastodon account.
95% of the time this is true all the time. I have both bridges as muted words. Problem solved 😂
"Interesting observation! Social media can certainly amplify a variety of voices, but it’s always good to remember that perspectives can vary widely across platforms. Let's keep the conversation open and respectful! 🌍✨"
Well there are definitely servers that don't federate with Mostr or Momostr... But there are other servers that do, and posts don't show up... So I think there are other issues.
As for spam, yeah there's some, but there's good content too... I've been enjoying nostr:nprofile1qqsyk3sjx32e4xs5qj2rtcwapeyrj95yfn4d4h7kkhdgyjc409fmmespr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0d4hhxarj9ecxjmnt9urzqpjr for instance
What’s a mostr bridge? How would it work ?
Bridges (in principle at least) ferry messages back and forth between Nostr and Mastodon. That's at least, how it should work...
There are two Bridges, #mostr and #momostr. Neither work great, but Momostr is the more functional of the two. I describe it all here:
nostr:naddr1qq09g6r9wdjj6snjd9jxwetn948x2ety94tk7unt95u85et8xaaqz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0qgs2lys4fd8aqq5jgqcnsmm3xvas4lvhgxs8daw88z7zvqa9kkwkw8crqsqqqa28quyrhk
ᴀɴʏ ꜱᴛᴀᴛɪꜱᴛɪᴄꜱ ᴏɴ ʜᴏᴡ ᴍᴀɴʏ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴍᴏᴠᴇᴅ ɪɴ ᴇɪᴛʜᴇʀ ᴅɪʀᴇᴄᴛɪᴏɴ? ᴛʜᴇꜱᴇ ᴘɪɴᴋ.ᴍᴏᴍᴏꜱᴛʀ ᴛᴀɢɢᴇᴅ ᴛʜɪɴɢꜱ ᴀʟʟ ꜱᴇᴇᴍ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ꜱᴏꜰᴛ-ᴘᴇᴅᴏ-ᴘᴏʀɴ.
No, we know very little about how these bridges operate, or any kind of "dashboard" information like that. nostr:nprofile1qydhwumn8ghj7emvv4shxmmwv96x7u3wv3jhvtmjv4kxz7gpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerfw36x7tnsw43z7qgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhx6mmnw3ezuur4vghsqgqyv87tanzvxd6y8xfj66u0zynfendhejtn44a9pt3k9kcntfr5m5c5utfg operates Mostr but doesn't really respond to comments about it, except occasionally to cuss me out... The nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgewaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmp0qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kytcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qqsxhcu0333a7ldlsndha39xumammrgemj3mnq8045v9shzx7p9jd7gz4dcxl npub hasn't had an update since 2024...
And whomever is responsible for "momostr" has intentionally not disclosed their npub.
To respond to the 2nd point about content... I've personally not had that experience, I follow a bunch of Mastodon npubs that post content I want to see, like nostr:nprofile1qyvhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddakk7um5wgh8q6twdvhsqgxqexcr5rkwztv2lxhqachh5vxg6hh4eqcacar0nrxm934gpypzvqxy3xgs for instance
Nothing stopping people from forking & improving it, except for time & desire.
ʏᴏᴜ ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ᴘɪɢ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ʙʏ ᴘᴀɪɴᴛɪɴɢ ʟɪᴘꜱᴛɪᴄᴋ ᴏɴ ɪᴛ
ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪꜱ ᴇɴᴏᴜɢʜ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ʟɪʙᴇʀᴀʟ ꜱᴄᴜᴍ ᴏɴ ɴᴏꜱᴛʀ.ᴡɪɴᴇ ꜱᴛʀᴀᴅᴅʟɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀꜱᴛᴏᴅᴏɴ ᴀɴᴅ ʙʟᴜ ᴇꜱᴋʏ ᴛᴏ ᴛʀʏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘᴏɪꜱᴏɴ ʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴅɪꜱᴄᴏʀᴅ ᴀꜱ ɪᴛ ɪꜱ.
Yeah, alright buddy... You can have a "safe space" for a certain ideology, or you can have an open, decentralized, censorship-resistant social media commons... You can't have both.
This is the mirror image of BlueSky worrying about whether decentralization leads to the spread of right-wing ideology.
ᴀ ꜱᴀꜰᴇ ᴘʟᴀᴄᴇ ꜰᴏʀ ɪᴅᴇᴏʟᴏɢʏ ɪꜱ ɪɴꜱɪᴅᴇ ᴀɴ ᴀɪʀ ꜱᴇᴀʟᴇᴅ, ʟᴇᴀᴅ ʟɪɴᴇᴅ ᴄʜᴀᴍʙᴇʀ ɪɴ ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ᴀʟʟ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴜʟᴛ ʟᴇᴀᴅᴇʀꜱ ᴡʜᴏ ʟɪᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴍᴀɴɪᴘᴜʟᴀᴛᴇᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ᴛᴏ ɪɴᴅᴜᴄᴛ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ɪɴᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴀꜱꜱ ᴄᴜʟᴛ
ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴀʀɢᴜᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪꜱ ꜰᴀʟꜱᴇ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴜꜱᴇ ɪᴅᴇᴏʟᴏɢʏ ɪꜱ ɪɴʜᴇʀᴇɴᴛʟʏ ɪʟʟᴏɢɪᴄᴀʟ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴅᴇꜱɪɢɴᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴇᴄᴇɪᴠᴇ.
Yeah, true... Although it's made much more difficult by the absolute refusal of anyone involved in these projects to actually talk about what the problems are. (and it doesn't help that it's on Gitlab, which makes you pay to post "issues")...
I mean, the last post by nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhx6mmnw3ezuur4vghszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qgewaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmp0qqsxhcu0333a7ldlsndha39xumammrgemj3mnq8045v9shzx7p9jd7gnez568 was like 18 months ago...
ᴛʜɪꜱ ɪꜱ ᴛʏᴘɪᴄᴀʟ ꜰᴏʀ ᴀʟʟ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴇʟʟ ꜰᴜɴᴅᴇᴅ ᴅᴇᴠꜱ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴄᴇɴᴛʀᴀʟɪꜱᴇᴅ ꜱᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴍᴇᴅɪᴀ ꜱᴘᴀᴄᴇ. ɪ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ǫᴜᴇꜱᴛɪᴏɴꜱ ᴀʙᴏᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴛɪᴠᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴅɪꜱʜɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴀꜱʜ ᴏᴜᴛ.
ᴏɴʟʏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘᴏᴏʀ ꜰᴏʟᴋ ꜱᴄʀᴀᴘɪɴɢ ʙʏ ᴅᴏ ᴀɴʏᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ꜰᴜɴᴄᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜɪꜱ ʜᴀꜱ ɢᴏᴛ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴡᴏʀꜱᴇ ꜱɪɴᴄᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴀʟʟ ꜱᴛᴀʀᴛᴇᴅ ᴠɪʙᴇ ᴄᴏᴅɪɴɢ. ꜰᴏʀᴛᴜɴᴀᴛᴇʟʏ, ᴛʜᴇ ᴏʙᴠᴇʀꜱᴇ ꜱᴇᴇᴍꜱ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʜᴀᴘᴘᴇɴɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴛᴇʀᴍɪɴᴇᴅ ᴏᴜᴛꜱɪᴅᴇʀꜱ.
ᴀʟꜱᴏ, ɪ ᴛʀɪᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴄᴏɴᴛʀɪʙᴜᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴛᴄᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ʟɴᴅ ʀᴇᴘᴏꜱɪᴛᴏʀɪᴇꜱ ꜱᴇᴠᴇʀᴀʟ ᴛɪᴍᴇꜱ ᴀ ꜰᴇᴡ ʏᴇᴀʀꜱ ᴀɢᴏ. ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴇʀᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱᴀᴍᴇ. ɪ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴇꜱᴛɪᴍᴀᴛᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜɪꜱ ɪꜱ ᴘʀᴏʙᴀʙʟʏ ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴜʟᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀʟᴍᴏꜱᴛ ᴀʟʟ ᴏᴘᴇɴ ꜱᴏᴜʀᴄᴇ ᴘʀᴏᴊᴇᴄᴛꜱ.
ᴛʜᴇ ɢᴏʟᴅᴇɴ ʀᴜʟᴇ ᴏꜰ ᴏᴘᴇɴ ꜱᴏᴜʀᴄᴇ ᴅᴇᴠ ɪꜱ ꜰᴏʀᴋ, ꜰᴏʀᴋ, ꜰᴏʀᴋ.
ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴏɴᴇ ᴡʜᴏ ᴅᴏᴇꜱ ꜰᴏꜱꜱ ᴅᴇᴠ ᴡʜᴏ ʜᴀꜱ ꜱᴇᴄᴜʀᴇᴅ ᴏɴɢᴏɪɴɢ ꜰᴜɴᴅɪɴɢ ɪꜱ ᴀ ᴊᴀᴄᴋᴀꜱꜱ
ɪ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ǫᴜᴀʟɪꜰʏ ᴛʜɪꜱ ꜱᴛᴀᴛᴇᴍᴇɴᴛ ʙʏ ꜱᴀʏɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴅᴇᴠꜱ ᴡᴏʀᴋɪɴɢ ᴏɴ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ꜱᴇʀɪᴏᴜꜱ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇʀᴄɪᴀʟ ᴘʀᴏᴊᴇᴄᴛꜱ (ᴀɴᴅ ʙʏ ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ɪ ɪɴᴄʟᴜᴅᴇ ᴍʏ ᴍᴀɪɴ ɢɪɢ ɴᴏᴡ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴘʟᴇʙᴇɪᴀɴ ᴍᴀʀᴋᴇᴛ) ᴀʀᴇ ɴᴏᴛ.
ꜱᴇʟꜰ ꜰᴜɴᴅᴇᴅ, ᴏʀ ᴀɪᴍɪɴɢ ꜰᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇʀᴄɪᴀʟ, ᴘʀᴏꜰɪᴛᴀʙʟᴇ ᴅᴇᴘʟᴏʏᴍᴇɴᴛ = ɢᴏᴏᴅ
ᴛʜᴇ ʀᴇꜱᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ᴊᴜꜱᴛ ꜱᴘᴏɪʟᴛ ʙᴀʙʏ ʙʀᴀᴛꜱ ᴘʟᴀʏɪɴɢ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴅᴏᴏᴅʟᴇꜱ.
ʏᴇᴀʜ, ᴛʜᴀᴛ ꜰɪɢᴜʀᴇꜱ.
ʜᴏᴡ ᴛᴏ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɪꜰ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴏɴᴇ ɪꜱ ᴀ ʟʏɪɴɢ ᴄᴜɴᴛ:
ᴅᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴘʟᴀᴛꜰᴏʀᴍꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘʀɪᴍᴀʟ ᴀɴᴅ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ᴍᴀɴɪᴘᴜʟᴀᴛɪᴠᴇ ᴄᴜɴᴛꜱ ᴘʀᴏᴍᴏᴛᴇ ᴛʜᴇᴍ?
ᴀɴꜱᴡᴇʀ: ʏᴇꜱ
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