It genuinely pisses me off that Snowden has completely abandoned Nostr. I don’t know if I can in good faith believe another word he says when it comes to privacy and decentralization.

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Yep. Even nostr:npub1fdrpydz4n2dpgpy5xhsa6rjg8ytggn82mt0addw6sf93272nhhnqsjlvhs is on Mastodon.

There's a calculus people make when they stay on X, something like "that's where I have to be to be a part of the conversation"...

But I guess you just have to be willfully ignorant of the fact that what you're seeing is entirely manipulated by an egomaniac who's purged Twitter of anyone who's not his syncophant...?

I too await Cory Doctorow growing up and joining nostr, as his books helped me grow up and get into open source software when I was younger

nostr:npub1yxzkmtuyctjw2pffp6e9uvyrkp29hrqra2tm3xp3z9707z06muxsg75qvv shared on nostr:npub1trustldqg4fnp40f3g75mu0p03zj4dxpa4jg7dclzqp9g3aunsgs4a4j8j the other day that he didn’t need to join nostr, thanks to the fact that it’s interoperable. He can choose to have both staying where he is.

That's fine for a child, I remember when I was a child too.

He helped me, hopefully there's help for him

Ooh I gotta listen to that... Have no idea that he knows Nostr exists!

However "it's interoperable" is quite a big stretch, based on the fact that the #mostr and #momostr bridges are both fundamentally broken...

it was a great interview! definitely recommend it 🤙🔥

https://fountain.fm/episode/bJgdt0hJAnppEve6Qmt8

Maybe because Nostr isn't about privacy? 🤷🏻‍♂️

It is to some degree. Whereby your every use on the network is not data mined and used to build prediction profiles for selling ads, etc

You can proove that no one is making use of the data we provide? Prediction profiles could very well exist from your notes.

Best to operate under the assumption your notes are being collected. Nothing to stop someone from having a relay to collect them and do with them what they wish, they could even disregard delete requests. What you post on Nostr is public for the most part.

It's also trivial to do. I ran a wot relay on a 2 core VPS with 2gb of RAM, collecting the notes from ~40k npubs. It barely broke a sweat doing that.

^ This ^

You don't even need to run a relay, you can just fetch from other relays continuously.

None of that matters as the ease of disposable keypairs is unlike anything in the normie world… hence why I built https://anonostr.com

Nostr is better for data mining than practically anything that ever existed.

If you create a new npub with amber, and then use a vpn, you could privately leak documents that others could easily share and would be difficult to censor.

Same with email, IRC, etc. Those steps aren't part of Nostr.

How do you publicly post an email? Idk how censor resistant irc is, but email is definitely censored

I was talking about how Nostr isn't inherently private. What conversation are you having?

It is if you use it just like I said. You then compared it to other protocols. Just because those protocols are equally private when used that way doesn't mean nostr isn't private.

Pseudonymous and private are different concepts. Most things you post on Nostr are inherently public, the opposite of private.

Privacy is different from private. Privacy is basically the ability to control the level at which information is shared, sending someone a private message is nested within the concept of privacy. You can use nostr anonymously so idk why you're bring up pseudonymous. And yes, obviously a "post" is by definition public. That doesn't mean you can't use nostr privately.

Privacy isn't about secrecy, it's about ownership of personal data.

Because Nostr gives you more control, it gives you more privacy. Does it give you more secrecy? No, unless you remain anonymous, which his account is not (he may have a separate anonymous account for all we know. That we can't know is the point).

Is it really privacy when everyone owns your data? It seems rather public at that point.

It depends on what you value more.

You have more right to portability than in any (other) platform (it's trivial to pull your events from many relays).

Whether those who access your data will use it for illegitimate purposes isn't a technical question. Doing so would be illegal regardless of the technology.

You don't know for certain he has

At least not as “Snowden” lol

Sometimes you just have to go where the eyeballs are, Nostr for all of its strengths is a very small place currently. It is good enough he has a public account here, whether or not he uses it on a regular basis! Focus on building your own stuff and don't diss others for not following exactly the same path as you. Nostr doesn't need heroes, it needs builders and thinkers!

If I remember right he said it was due to lack of Tor browser support, which still no one has fixed, even though apps like Primal have the resources for it (cached servers)