Well, the relay-hint might help. Or an auto-tag or label.
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What's a relay hint?
Is that the h-tag (used in NIP-29 for example)?
NIP-29 doesn't reference relays in any tags, but you can see the "recomended relays" part of tags and fields in NIP-01.
I meant the h-tag that mentions the community on the relay your publication is targeted at.
I need a tag like that mentions the targeted relay, because I think communities should be straight up relays anyway: nostr:naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzp22rfmsktmgpk2rtan7zwu00zuzax5maq5dnsu5g3xxvqr2u3pd7qyt8wumn8ghj7mnfv4kzumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejz7qq0wd5k6urvv4ch2etnw35k7mnnuywg0l
Yeah communities are a ghost town, but they do have a handy tag at the top of the post to tell you where the note has come from, similar to followed hashtags (on amethyst at least).
I just feel so out of my depth with relays lol. Say you are following 20 topics, you would have 20 relays? How would I post to just one relay? Maybe it would be similar to posting on a community on Nostrudel, where you select from a drop-down menu? But yeah the difference being it wouldnt also post on your main feed? I have no idea lol
Yup, the "Share your post" part is an important part of the UX.
In what I'm buidling out it's literally a step you **cannot** skip.
(like in 💯 normie -friendly Instagram)
By letting the Community take care of being the Relay, Blossom media server, etc... it's okay to be out of your depth with all those technicalities. It's all about targetting content to the appropriate audience.
Yes, you could just select which relay you want to post to, from a drop-down menu in the note-writing form. Amethyst and Habla.News already have this. You can select your relays during the publication process.
Hzrd already said that he wants to move to relay-selection, but that it'll take awhile, as he'd have to rewrite so much code.
The problem I face is that my communities list keeps being nuked by some client, someplace, so every time I want to select a community, when writing, the drop-down list is blank. 😅🙈
Gave up, but this could be fixed.
They often disappear for me on amethyst, but clearing cache brings them back. But mostly given up posting to them anyway lol
The old communities events include relay hints. NIP-29 groups are completely detached from relays.
Yeah i can't really comment on relays or whatever or any of this lolol, I still don't know why a relay is preferable to a bliesky-type feed. I think nostr:nprofile1qqs8d3c64cayj8canmky0jap0c3fekjpzwsthdhx4cthd4my8c5u47spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wvh8xmmrd9skchd02dz was also wondering about a proper relay directory with topics/interests.
Bluesky feeds are a filter on the content. They look for particular keywords or exclude keywords, and if your note fits to that set, and you're allowed on the feed as a user, they add your post to the feed. This is the same way a topic relay can work, like https://christpill.nostr1.com
>>Feeds offer some of the same functionalities as hashtags, lists, or communities. A feed is simply a curated list of posts on Bluesky. The curation can be done fully openly, as with a feed that searches for any keywords and automatically indexes them. (This can approximate hashtag behavior and some feeds are keyed to hashtag-looking keywords, like #LandBack.) Feeds can also display all posts from some users or some posts from a pre-screened list of users.<<
The main difference is that Bluesky probably only has one "bread baking" feed because they only have one big note-faucet that the feed filters notes from. So, if you get banned from that feed or from the faucet, then you can't just spin up a different relay with a new feed. You just have to talk about bread by yourself, from then on.
Hmm I'm not sure about the technical side of Bluesky feeds either, but they seem to be user-made (?). In my play about on Bluesky I have seen several film feeds (one uses all notes that add a 📽️ emoji to select from, and the moderate for eg).
But yeah I'm not sure about anything :)
Bluesky feeds are curated. That's why they seem to work better and have higher signal. The data gets pushed through a filter, basically.
DVMs do something similar, but instead of doing it continually, for everyone receiving the feed, you send off a request and they run the filter for you, especially. That's why it's called a "Data Vending Machine". That's more personal, but also more resource-intensive. Makes more sense to do use that tool for more complex and uncommon combinations, than "show me the feed about baking" or "show me the top ten notes on the biggest 10 relays".