They don’t see it that way. To them it’s just this stupid new thing someone is begging them to try and it’s a pain in the ass so quit.

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Let the wolves of fiat have them then .

They don’t see that as a problem …

What is the issue here?

Why is custodial so bad for small amounts?

Start small, good UX

Real money progress to 12 words + whatever else you deem necessary

You won’t onboard people with technical nightmares. It won’t happen and frankly in 14 years it hasn’t happened

I agree 😂

Why do you agree?

It will not be fun

We need a massive argument that descends into personal abuse please

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Buy why should I onboard someone to a custodial solution. Then use PayPal it’s the same.

With WoS you are not really using Bitcoin you have IOYs again WoS that is my whole point.

2500sats is less than a dollar. If you are not willing to invest this amount then your time to understand Bitcoin has simply not now

IOU or not it exposes people to sats.

You can dislike it all you want but that doesn’t change how people perceive things.

We have to meet them at their comfort level not they on ours unless they absolutely need it.

This is exactly correct. “We have to meet them at their comfort level”

Make it easy and fun

The problem I have with the immediate self custody insistence is that it contains an assumption that people treat $10 in the same way they treat $10million

Self evidently they do not

Onboard > enjoy > educate

Onboard > enjoy > education

That’s exactly what the meme is about.

Sending someone sats to WoS is not “orange pilling”

You do you. But I prefer to get people excited with the least amount of work and open the door so that they can start their bitcoin journey.

Did you and nostr:npub1rjwumr7j6tac08t0qttvc44walt549nc4eyyxjc0phn6yxzj7uzq0accc9 both buy your first sats directly into a multi-sig coldcard? If so, cool. But I’ll bet not.

Starting with custodial also means that you are teeing up the custodial vs self custodial conversation for the future in a way that has personal meaning rather than being theoretical.

I agree with you that self custodial is obviously “the way” and where we want everyone to end up. We only disagree on the most effective way to get them there.

Yeah man that's rational.

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